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82 Reasons to Hate Star Wars: Episdoe III Tentative assessment.

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Posted 25 May 2005 - 12:23 PM

Okay, the latest Vegas odds are showing that my list will consist of 82 reasons. I've removed quite a few and added yet others. I'm making no promises but I am going to work my hardest to get these reasons up on Lance & Eskimo (and Chefelf.com) by Monday, June 6.

I will probably run 1 set of ten reasons a week for 8 weeks. Though I may speed them up a bit if people grow too impatient. smile.gif
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 12:24 PM

Does it mean you consider it worse than AOTC and TPM?

Power has blinded you, then.
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 12:28 PM

QUOTE (Lord Melkor @ May 25 2005, 12:24 PM)
Does it mean you consider it worse than AOTC and TPM?


No, it doesn't mean that at all. However, since things actually happened in this movie it makes sense that there would be more reasons.
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 12:30 PM

You can't hurry greatness, Chef. Take your time. There's a lot to pick apart!
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 12:30 PM

So, would you recommend watching this film to person who is not a fan?

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Posted 25 May 2005 - 12:34 PM

Also, how many reasons are from Palpy/Mace/Anakin scene?
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 12:47 PM

laugh.gif 82? You're going to outdo yourself Chef. Cant wait to see it.....though Id also like to hear what you thought was good in the movie
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 12:50 PM

QUOTE (Lord Melkor @ May 25 2005, 12:34 PM)
Also, how many reasons are from Palpy/Mace/Anakin scene?


Looks to be about six at this point.
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 01:00 PM

But Gollum-Sidious was funny as hell, you must admit!
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 01:07 PM

I'll bet 20 of them are in the opening space battle.
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 01:25 PM

I keep saying this to friends of mine...

What was good was really good.

And what was bad, was really BAD!!!!!
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 02:01 PM

QUOTE (Lord Melkor @ May 25 2005, 02:00 PM)
But Gollum-Sidious was funny as hell, you must admit!


That's what Mr. Lucas wants you to think.
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 02:46 PM

QUOTE (Slank @ May 25 2005, 08:01 PM)
That's what Mr. Lucas wants you to think.


I don`t think he was intended to be funny in this scene!
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 04:41 PM

QUOTE (Chefelf @ May 25 2005, 12:23 PM)
Okay, the latest Vegas odds are showing that my list will consist of 82 reasons.  I've removed quite a few and added yet others.  I'm making no promises but I am going to work my hardest to get these reasons up on Lance & Eskimo (and Chefelf.com) by Monday, June 6.

I will probably run 1 set of ten reasons a week for 8 weeks.  Though I may speed them up a bit if people grow too impatient.  smile.gif


I am sure someone else has said this before, but I have one single reason for disliking all three prequels. Here it is -

The reason that so many people dislike the prequels is simply for the fact that it is not what most people who have seen the original trilogy expected them to be like. It is granted that each movie should be new, different, and interesting in its own way so that each sequel/prequel is not a rehash of the one before it, but the biggest problem with the prequel trilogy is that it is so far from what 95% of "true" Star Wars fans expected. Compare watching A New Hope to The Phantom Menace - what in A New Hope would give you the impression that Darth Vader spent his childhood as a slave pod-racer/protocol droid maker who befriended two random Jedi knights, a queen, and a borderline minstrel show reject? What would give you the impression that The Force is not all-encompassing spiritual...ummm...force, but rather something that can be measured in your blood, like blood sugar? Now, you can argue with what I am saying by making the argument, what in A New Hope would lead you to believe that Darth Vader is Luke's father, Leia is his sister, Han would be imprisoned in carbonite, and there is a mysterious big-eared green puppet that is the strongest Jedi in the universe? Well, the simple fact is that we all can watch ESB and ROTJ after ANH and feel like it all fits. The problem is that none of the prequels as a whole fit. There is too much that just feels different. It would have been a shame if Lucas had just made thinly-veiled remakes of the original trilogy, and it would be a shame if fans would be so picky as to not have accepted anything new, but what has happened is an even bigger shame.

If most Star Wars fans are like me, when they watch the prequels, they think to themselves, that is not how things should have been - I could have written this better myself. That is a problem. It is an even bigger problem when you compare what people would have changed, and all the changes are more or less the same. If you read Lucas' own novelization of Star Wars, his rare descriptions of pre-ANH events (ie things that happen in the prequel trilogy) even differ from what actually happened, both in fact and mood.
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 05:29 PM

Have been reading this stuff forever now. Finally decided to register and post. Get the list done. I'm looking more forward to the Reasons list than the film itself.
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