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III: A Star Wars Role-Playing Gamer's Perspective a look through a gamer's lens

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Posted 26 May 2005 - 09:55 PM

He did a bit of kung-fu posing but not nearly as much as he did in Clones. I actually didn't mind the super grover attack mode in ROTS - but I hated Palps super grover. He should have moved very slowly, like a mobile tower, and used a light touch with his saber, not hacking or slashing anything, just meeting the enemy saber with a firm yet supple grip and sneaking his own beneath their guard and simply passing the saber through them if he was going to saberfight at all.
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Posted 27 May 2005 - 09:14 AM

Screw him saber fighting, by that time he should've had Anikin defending him. I'm telling you, both Yoda and Palps could've avoided taking up sabers with better writing.
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Posted 27 May 2005 - 10:43 AM

QUOTE (floppydisk @ May 27 2005, 09:14 AM)
Screw him saber fighting, by that time he should've had Anikin defending him. I'm telling you, both Yoda and Palps could've avoided taking up sabers with better writing.


I agree completely with this. As master force uses they should have been able to battle on a pure energy level (or better writing).
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Posted 27 May 2005 - 11:14 AM

They don't even need to battle. Both being masters of the force, they would instantly know who was stronger with the force, and who was going to win the fight. So they don't even need to fight, just Yoda needs to say something like "I cannot defeat him. Too strong with the force, is he." But it would be even better if Yoda was never in the prequels, and had become too old for fighting long ago, and had retired to Dagobah. Palpatine would be the puppet master, using his influence to get what he wants by controlling those around him.
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Posted 27 May 2005 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE (Lord Melkor @ May 24 2005, 01:22 PM)
Does it trouble you?

Games and movies are a diffrent medium.


it troubles me that in the official SW RPG, that storm troopers have such strick prerequisits, and are so hard to kill...

when in the films an ewok can do it with a rock...
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Posted 27 May 2005 - 08:58 PM

That's because it was someone other than Lucas making the game. Stupid moron, he is.
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Posted 29 May 2005 - 09:42 PM

it was just so frustrating...

i would yell at the DM, what you mean he doged e-web blast... what if i get a furry little teddy bear to throw a rock!!! will that do it?!?!yell.gif
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Posted 29 May 2005 - 10:19 PM

I've mentioned my way in my rewrites how I would've handled the Palp/Yoda battle, but I agree that Yoda should've never been in the prequels at all. It's going to look silly (and maybe this is Lucas's intention to demean and belittle the OT), but when they are watched in order, people will come along to ESB and wonder 1) what the hell Yoda is talking about and 2) Why he isn't teaching Luke any saber skills.

The Jedi should've been this way: There are two types of Jedi. The Knight and the Master. They gradually, through atuning through the Force, learn new ways to utilize the Force better. That is, the "early levels" are just tapping into it for the physical, control over your body, control over other objects, healing, etc., so yes, Yoda probably was a Knight at one time, when he was very-very young (about 100 or so), but then he reaches a point where the physical isn't necessary, the saber isn't necessary. Part of the battle they engaged in shows this. It would be like the Matrix when Morpheus tells Neo that he "won't need to" anymore.

So, my further thought is, that while these "Knights" who are still depending on their Force-enhanced physical abilities, they are susceptible to the Dark Side, and like the West End Games version, at times they need to be "purged" of the Dark Side. And this is where Yoda or other high masters are utilized. They take in the knight whom they've sensed are slipping over to the dark side and after deep meditation and counciling, they're brought back over to the good, and their minds are clear again. If Yoda was to be in the prequels at all, this is how I had hoped to see him.

Some Jedi knights would never acheive the levels that Jedi Masters have achieved, just because they can't mentally move past the physical side of it all, and this is their downfall. Ben, only through those twenty long years achieved the power of the Master, and not some 30 minute seminar from Qui-Gon-Beyond-the-Grave thing... retarded.

This post has been edited by CowboyCurtis: 29 May 2005 - 10:24 PM

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Battle for the Galaxy--read the "other Star Wars"

All I know is I haven't seen the real prequels yet.
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Posted 30 May 2005 - 04:07 PM

QUOTE (CowboyCurtis @ May 29 2005, 10:19 PM)
Some Jedi knights would never acheive the levels that Jedi Masters have achieved, just because they can't mentally move past the physical side of it all, and this is their downfall.   Ben, only through those twenty long years achieved the power of the Master, and not some 30 minute seminar from Qui-Gon-Beyond-the-Grave thing... retarded.

Great ideas. Just how Jedi are supposed to be. And that stupid Qui-gon thing really pissed me off. Plus Obi blatanty contradicts himself by saying that Yoda was his master. Like the midis, Lucas explains something that is best left to his fans to work out.

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Post icon  Posted 03 June 2005 - 07:30 AM

Yes, the thing about Yoda training Obi-Wan...

I have a pretty lame explanation. Want to hear it?

In the "Buffy- the Vampire Slayer" universe, a vampire calls the vampire who created him his "sire." But he also calls the vampire who created his sire "sire," since "grandsire" sounds kinda... dumb. Maybe GL thinks the same way: Obi-Wan MEANT "the Jedi Master who trained the master of my master, who in turn trained my master, who trained me," but shortened it to say "the Jedi Master who trained me."
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Posted 03 June 2005 - 01:02 PM

Hey, maybe they aren't minmaxers. If you dont max out all your skills in the D20 version, you can gain competancy in a lot of different skills.
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Posted 03 June 2005 - 03:37 PM

QUOTE (The Lord of Dorkness @ Jun 3 2005, 07:30 AM)
In the "Buffy- the Vampire Slayer" universe, a vampire calls the vampire who created him his "sire." But he also calls the vampire who created his sire "sire," since "grandsire" sounds kinda... dumb. Maybe GL thinks the same way: Obi-Wan MEANT "the Jedi Master who trained the master of  my master, who in turn trained my master, who trained me," but shortened it to say "the Jedi Master who trained me."

Yeah, I thought of that, but Obi doesn't only say that Yoda was his master, but also that Yoda trained him. I know you could say that Yoda did train him at the Jedi temple, but I think Obi made it pretty cleat that Yoda was his real master that trained him in everything he knew.
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