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Posted 25 May 2005 - 08:36 PM

KOTOR says nothing about sand people torturing anyone, KotOR is canon. I think whatever you read was just one of those crackass novels.

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Posted 25 May 2005 - 10:05 PM

I remember one of the EU things was the tales of Bounty Hunters... in it the idea of Sand People keeping people and killing people for their fluids is mentioned.

As for the KOTOR is canon idea... for those of us who have never played it we can't be expected to hold to it.
Nothing save Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back is pure and total canon, anyway.
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Posted 25 May 2005 - 10:58 PM

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Why this fact isn't mentioned in the movie is beyond me. I guess because, like everyone's been saying, it's not really important. They're "animals" anyway....

Which is a shame. Kleig L. lives while 30 others die to save HIS woman? GL: "Hmm, I named them Raiders. It's time to show what happens when they raid."

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Nothing save Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back is pure and total canon, anyway.

I'm in full agreement. It's a parallel universe.
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Posted 26 May 2005 - 01:16 AM

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KOTOR says nothing about sand people torturing anyone, KotOR is canon. I think whatever you read was just one of those crackass novels.


KotOR can not be canon because it and KotOR II: tSL were never finished! Both games are missing massive amounts of storyline and essential information. It can be found in the sound files in hundreds of little clips.

Luckily there are modders that care... unlike Lucas and his henchmen that rushed the second game in time for the holiday season and skipped about half of it and left the other half completely unexplained.
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Posted 26 May 2005 - 01:26 AM

All games at the time had unfinished endings because of Xbox 360 - the same thing happened with Halo 2. They all had cliffhangers or unfinished stories because a sequel would be released soon after.
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Posted 26 May 2005 - 01:39 AM

I have never, ever, not in all my life seen a gusher try to defend the mess-up that was KotOR II: tSL. Congratulations on reaching a new low for your kind.

The parts missing are essential to the storyline. They're just not there. The sound files are there... they were supposed to be there... but Lucas' whores pushed the game developer to wrap it up unfinished so they could make some buck off the holidary season.

Don't believe me? Look up HK-47 and something to do with the missing parts. The SKIPPED AN ENTIRE PLANET just so they could hit the holidays.

These missing parts will not be explained in a third sequel and its not that it matters... they were essential in the second one.

Its got nothing to do with Xbox 360.
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Posted 26 May 2005 - 01:45 AM

You just called me a gusher, tiny bear. Don't do that again.
Never dismiss anyone for their type or 'kind' as you put it especially not when you get someone's 'kind' wrong.
Every game released on Xbox at that time had an unfinished ending or a cliffhanger, owing to Xbox 360 being released this year. Why should KOTOR II be any different. I never played the game myself but I was making the point from a simply technological point of view. I may be wrong and I may be proven wrong.

Back on topic, I don't suppose anyone noticed the obvious - she died just as she saw Anakin. If Hayden christensen came in to a tent you were in with Padawan hair and started saying crappy lines at you you'd drop dead pretty soon too.

Edit - You seem harmless enough, Bear. But you also seem kinda dumb. You're lucky you are hiding behind online anonymity, because if you pulled that stunt in a flesh-and-blood context you would live to regret it. What you just said was the lowest form of fallacy and is tantamount to racism.

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Posted 26 May 2005 - 02:34 AM

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...you would live to regret it.


You're kidding right? Did you just cyber-threat me? Well guess what? Your Mom looks like a Hutt. Hah. Lame... yeah... but not so lame as a cyber-threat...

Anyways, KotOR II: tSL was unfinished. The worst example? I dunno, they cut out about half the game, so much so that like I said, one half was missing and the other half didn't make any sense because of it. It was essential game information. Game information so essential that if you took most quests, by the end you're left with unfinished quests that could not be finished. Why? Nobody official will say... but it doesn't take much looking to get the general opinion from most fans of the original KotOR. It was lacking, but not in a way that would have made the game completely incoherent.

I'm actually wondering how they're going to be able to do a third sequel when they butchered the whole thing so bad with number two.

One good example is a final battle between three droids, Remote, G0-T0, and HK-47. All of a sudden, a character who was supposed to die, along with some others in a most dramatic fashion (the sound files are in the game still), pops up and gives his little droid, Remote, orders to activate some power generators to destroy some kind of gravity generator or something. I dunno. Hogwash it was. Anyways... you go around and about through this canyon area, turn on all the power generators, and on the final one, G0-T0 confronts you. He says something about the master not wanting this to happen, because the said planet to be destroyed is full of ancient Sith artifacts.

In the actual game, all you see is the planet blow up... but what was supposed to happen was HK-47 would arrive with his new kids, HK-60s and blow G0-T0 to hell and save the day. But noooo... they cut it out because they had to get it ready before the holiday shopping spree. So sad. Use Google if you really want to discover yet another hackjob of the Star Wars universe by Lucas and his goons.
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Posted 26 May 2005 - 07:05 AM

I didn't cyberthreaten you, I simply pointed out that if a real life person 'pffed' another real person like you did person B would get pissed at person A.

Think what you like about the game, and I'm not excusing the actual events of the game, all I'm saying is that the reason for it was the Xbox 360. I'm not saying it wasn't a letdown, twiggy. Just saying they did it for the money.
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Posted 26 May 2005 - 12:14 PM

It had nothing to do with the Xbox 360. That was not the reason. Which I've already explain numerous times.

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No. You gave me a good 'ol cyber-threat.
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Posted 26 May 2005 - 01:54 PM

Okay, let's quit it. Don't get this out of hand. Say you're sorry, both of you. Or don't say you're sorry, just stop flaming. It doesn't matter what either of you said, let's stick to the discussion at hand, eh? I'll jump start it here by asking: What are some of the other launch titles other than Perfect Dark 0?
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Posted 26 May 2005 - 02:38 PM

Anakin Skywalker says: But he started it Master Jedi! I HATE YOU!

Okay. Sorry for calling you a gusher.
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Posted 26 May 2005 - 03:01 PM

Um...to get back to the death of Shmi Lars...it was terrible and tragic enough to push Anakin over the edge. I mean, he wasnt that far from losing it anyway was he?
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Posted 26 May 2005 - 04:42 PM

While we may not be able to identify with it, it must have been a terrible experience for Anikin, losing his mother like that.
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Posted 26 May 2005 - 05:00 PM

Glad someone else thinks the same about it.
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