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Posted 23 May 2005 - 08:39 PM



In a thread in the ROTS section of the forum, some of my friends and I think we solved the riddle of why Shmi died.

Here are the possibilities:

a) Shmi was raped/molested by the sandpeople to the point of near death.
b ) She was starved.
c) Both


Any other theories are welcome. This thread is all about her death and all that happened around the event.

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 08:49 PM

Umm... did you miss those scars on her? She was tortured to death. Which doesn't make much sense... why would Sand People want to torture her? In the OT, all they wanted was shiny stuff.
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 09:06 PM

Rape is torture. They could have tortured her while raping her. I am pointing out that their aren't enough scars to suffice for her death.

Dude, I'm not going to sit and answer questions that do not (but try to), contradict my theories. She could have gotten those scars from anywhere.

You say that it doesn't make sense. It doesn't. Thats why my theory is very realistic and very possible.
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 09:16 PM

QUOTE (StarWarsIsUs @ May 23 2005, 09:06 PM)
Rape is torture. They could have tortured her while raping her. I am pointing out that their aren't enough scars to suffice for her death.

Oh fine, if we're being all technical... They were'nt scars, they were fresh wounds, and some were clotting up.
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Dude, I'm not going to sit and answer questions that do not (but try to), contradict my theories. She could have gotten those scars from anywhere.

Dude, that's what a forum is for. If your feeling like you don't want to discuss it, then leave. Don't point out how you're too good to answer my questions.
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You say that it doesn't make sense. It doesn't. Thats why my theory is very realistic and very possible.

Wait.... wha? wacko.gif

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 09:21 PM

She came on to the Sandpeople, so that she could bring Anikan back to her and to fulfill the prophecy. He was meant to kill them. Even the women and the children.
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 09:22 PM

Yarr... stupid prophecy.
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 11:23 PM

Does this admit of discussion? Lucas needed Shmi Skywalker to die - that was his chief concern. How it was to happen was of secondary concern. Why the Sand People should take a human woman captive is never made clear - Lucas is not a gutsy enough filmmaker to suggest that they raped her. This isn't THE SEARCHERS.
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 11:38 PM

QUOTE (StarWarsIsUs @ May 23 2005, 08:39 PM)

Here are the possibilities:

a) Shmi was raped/molested by the sandpeople to the point of near death.
b ) She was starved.
c) Both
Any other theories are welcome. This thread is all about her death and all that happened around the event.


Based on Lucas' style it is not likely she would have been raped by alien creatures. Simple torture with the cutting and beating of flesh and such would be the extent of his imagination.

There are many kinds of torture of which rape is only one. You don't need an abundant range of obvious scars for physical abuse to have still been the primary cause of death. For all we know there are massive internal injuries that could be the ultimate cause of death. These can be inflicted purely by beating. Her breathing was not all that solid - perhaps she had a punctured lung after a very recent beating and slowly drowned in her own blood (evidence does not suggest this by the way) just an example of how many possibilities there really are and what we are shown does not really lend itself to any full conclusion without more information.
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 03:18 AM

Ummm... it's not much of a riddle. Have you ever been tied in one place and not given any care or sustenance for several weeks? Especially in somewhere as cold as a desert night? It kind of um... kills you.
Even if they feed you three square meals a day but tie your hands and feet, if you get untied when you are cold you get seriously bollocksed up from cardiac chill.
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 06:11 AM

The important thing is the effect her death had on Anakin, how she died is neither here or there. Theres probably too much clutter in the film as it is.
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 07:04 AM

Why the fuck are people continuisly bringing up the idea of Shmi being raped to death? Good god people go get laid.

Jariten- That's true, but I think it could have been handled a bit better. For instance, maybe Anakin gets to see his mom all healthy and well and then the sand people come and fuck shit up, then after saying goodbye to her he chases them to their village. That's how I would have handled the scene if I had to do that scene at all.

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Posted 24 May 2005 - 09:56 AM

Anything could have killed Shmi, like others have said, she could have been beaten etc. You don't see her torso, as she is wearing clothes, but she could have been stabbed in the chest for instance, or even had every single one of her bones broken.

However, I still think the rape thing is a possibility. I don't think there is any evidence to suggest that she was raped to death, but I think it would be a valid explanation of why they took her in the first place. But there are other possibilities that people have brought up, like using her as their own slave, and just giving her random beatings too. Maybe there is something wrong with me brain. As soon as I saw her, it was my assumption that she had been raped repeatedly. I may be absolutely wrong wrong wrong. I'd like to hear what fat-chin lucas has to say about it. I have a joke for you. What is GL's favourite drink?

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Posted 24 May 2005 - 12:28 PM

QUOTE (Richard @ May 24 2005, 09:56 AM)
I don't think there is any evidence to suggest that she was raped to death,

Urm... can someone really be fucked so hard they die? I doubt it...

And besides, a better question is not 'how did she die', it's 'why the fuck did sand people kidnap and torture her?'
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 12:32 PM

QUOTE (floppydisk @ May 24 2005, 05:28 PM)
Urm... can someone really be fucked so hard they die? I doubt it...

And besides, a better question is not 'how did she die', it's 'why the fuck did sand people kidnap and torture her?'


Yea that's right.

I think you'd have to be raped with something in order to die from it probably.
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 12:35 PM

Like a lightsaber.

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