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#31 User is offline   Failureboy2 Icon

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Posted 24 May 2005 - 01:56 AM

Storm, I dedicate this song to you:

http://vaderremix.ytmnd.com/


laugh.gif God I could post these all night. But I won't.
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 02:01 AM

QUOTE (Storm @ May 24 2005, 01:54 AM)
Yes, they have sentimental value for myself as well.  But wouldn't be funny to examine all the flaws?


It's been done. Some gushers in the past made such list and posted in in the forum, have a look and dig them yourself. Some of the points were valid, too, pointing at weaknesses of OT. However, I am not frustrated, or angly or disappointed by OT and therefore I don't see the need to vent my feelings about it.
This is what Cheflef said a few days ago, have a look at his reason to make these lists:

http://www.chefelf.c...opic=3232&st=30

If you dig in Movie theathre, you'll see that I also did similar thing with The Two Towers and The Return of the King, becaue I felt frustrated and let down by these to sequels to a superior first part, however good these films might have been on their own.

No, making a list about OT is not fun.
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 02:38 AM

Hola. I'm a guy that loves the Star Wars universe and refuses to accept George Lucas' version of the events that took place. Simply put... he got it wrong. I have to tell myself this because its the only way I can sleep at night. He just got it wrong.

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!" was such a brutal line I actually covered my face in fear that people might actually see me in the theatre watching this crap only 3 days later. I slid down my chair to the point where the person behind me had no trouble whatsoever seeing the big screen. Vader was a total wimp. Ya know who he reminded me of? Evil Emperor Zerg. Yes. Darth Vader of Episode III reminded me of a cartoon character that was a spoof of the real Darth Vader. I was just waiting for Woody and friends to come into the screen and start singing, You've Got a Friend in Me. I was totally flabbergasted when the misrepresentation of Emperor Palpatine did NOT pick up his foot and find ANDY scrawled all over it in felt pen.

Buzz Lightyear would have fit in perfectly with those corny Jetson-style droids and the ridiculous Jedi dialogue.

As a member of the elite Universe Protection Unit of the Space Ranger Corps (read, Jedi Order), I protect the galaxy from the threat of invasion from the Evil Emperor Zurg (read, Sith or Seperatist Droid Armies), sworn enemy of the Galactic Alliance (read, Galactic Senate).

And what was wrong with the stupid Jetson-droids anyways? A droid built, I assume, for the sole purpose of being a midwife, that has to ask a Jedi whether the child is a boy or a girl? What do they do when a Jedi isn't hanging around? Guess?!

The Dune theft was pretty bad. This website gives you some idea of how much Lucas stole. Ignore the Lucas-love and you might find out something new. I can't remember the flying machines... but yet another theft. Not only did Lucas steal the good ideas, but the bad as well, such as the prophecy garbage...

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Plot-wise, the biggest problem with this project is the same problem I've always had with Dune; prophecy is a lousy mover for a story, neither imaginative nor logical, and every time I see it used in a movie or a book I come away with the same impression, that the writer couldn't think of any other way to get people to behave in ways which are totally contrary to their good sense. I know, I'm harping on this story for being what it is, but I've gotta be honest on this one.


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Thank you. I am Twig Bear. Hear me roar... and not like Tarzan!!!!!
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 03:02 AM

off topic-

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If you dig in Movie theathre, you'll see that I also did similar thing with The Two Towers and The Return of the King, becaue I felt frustrated and let down by these to sequels to a superior first part


I felt exactly the same.
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 03:19 AM

A big big smilie for Jariten smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

So you know the feeling of being let down, don't you?

Twig Bear - thanks for the link. I've always wanted to do more reseach on the subject of Lucas stealing things, looks like it is going to be a great read. And welcome.
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 05:24 AM

QUOTE (Failureboy2 @ May 24 2005, 08:48 AM)


Oh god!!! I just laughed so hard!!! laugh.gif
Thanks! thumbsup.gif

edit: This one is the best IMHO wink.gif
vader makes a ytmnd

This post has been edited by Grifter: 24 May 2005 - 05:43 AM

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Posted 24 May 2005 - 05:59 AM

QUOTE (Failureboy2 @ May 24 2005, 07:56 AM)
Storm, I dedicate this song to you:

http://vaderremix.ytmnd.com/
laugh.gif God I could post these all night.  But I won't.


Likewise, I just laughed so hard. Just awesome, thanks for that one mate biggrin.gif
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 11:47 AM

I've seen it three times now (twice for free biggrin.gif ) and twice the "Noooooooooooo" has caused people in the audience to laugh. For what's suppose to be Vader's darkest moment, it sure gets the wrong reaction from people. Easily one of the worst moments in the PT. Vader standing there in silence would've been much more effective way to complete Anakins transformation to the Dark Lord of the Sith. Im so glad this scene is being parodied (and disrespected). It deserves every second

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Posted 24 May 2005 - 11:50 AM

QUOTE (Storm @ May 23 2005, 06:07 PM)
Why is it laughable?  He killed his wife.  Why is that funny?


The answer to that question gets to the root of why Lucas is such a crappy director. On paper the story is tragic; on the screen it's unconvincing and laughable, the same way that, to take another example, little Annie's sociopathic snits in Episode II are unconvincing and laughable.
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 01:13 PM

QUOTE (ernesttomlinson @ May 24 2005, 10:50 AM)
The answer to that question gets to the root of why Lucas is such a crappy director...
[snip]


Not to mention that the way in which it's shot is incredibly cliche: As the camera pulls back, he leans back, his arms splayed open and his face toward the heavens, yelling "Noooooooooo!" in a long, drawn-out lament.

This sort of shot is done on comedy and satire shows like The Simpsons for a reason.
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 02:49 PM

that doesn't even sound like james earl jones either...
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 03:25 PM

Well, aren`t you exagerating the No scene? It was meant to represent Vader as tragic figure, not(yet) as badass villain. Was it that bad?
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 03:43 PM

QUOTE (Lord Melkor @ May 24 2005, 02:25 PM)
Well, aren`t you exagerating the No scene? It was meant to represent Vader as tragic figure, not(yet) as badass villain. Was it that bad?


I like the fact that Vader is as much a victim of the Dark Side as he is its willing thrall. I like that, ultimately, Anakin is the tragic figure upon whom everything turns; that he is unable to handle this burden, which drives him to corruption, but also makes his redemption that much more heroic. I don't have any problem at all with Vader being shown as a tragic figure here - we really need to see the last vestiges of Anakin being stripped away in those closing scenes. For example, I loved that look of fear that crosses Anakin's face as the mask begins to descend. The sensation of claustrophobia was excellently done.

It's just the way the scene was shot that ruins it for me, and the writing/delivery of the line, because it was so very cliche. As the scene began, I thought to myself, "He's gonna go 'Noooooooooo!'" and kind of chuckled to myself...and then he did it, true to telegraphing.

I would have preferred Vader falling to his knees with racking sobs, honestly. Something a little more original in the presentation of that despair.
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 03:46 PM

But I barely noticed it while watching the movie for a first time, maybe I was not paying enough attention?
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 03:47 PM

I know what you mean.

I imagine that a lot of people reacted in a similar way to Lukes "nooooo!" in ESB. Yes now we say "that was great!", but a lot of things seem better in retrospect. Im not saying a similar thing will happen with vader in ep3, just consider it as a possibility.
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