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Posted 23 May 2005 - 01:58 PM

This is currently showing in the UK. Was on last night at 10pm, same tonight and then concludes tomorrow. Is it just me or has it got SFA to do with SW?! It's just a really bad cash in on the current Ep3 hype. Maybe I'm just too cynical?

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 04:45 PM

Just what has science got to do with Star Wars?!
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 05:27 PM

QUOTE (jariten @ May 23 2005, 04:45 PM)
Just what has science got to do with Star Wars?!


Nothing. I saw about 20 seconds of it last night. It looks pretty dumb but, being who I am, I really want to catch it all. smile.gif
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 05:31 PM

It reminds me of something like those bloody 'incredible cross sections!' coffee table books taking about how a lightsabre works and how many guns a stardestroyer has. god that stuff is tiresome. and none of the ships have toilets! (let me know if The Science of Star Wars brings that up).

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 05:32 PM

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 07:15 PM

Really stupid series. They make all sorts of stupid connections. They had this jet pack contraption and they compared it to the millennium falcon.

I've been wanting to do a sword fight comparison documentary, so I wonder how much they paid for the rights to include all the SW footage. When I worked for Discovery Channel (who also did these shows), they can easily pay a quarter of a million dollars for the lifetime rights to 15 seconds clip of an atomic bomb dropping.
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 07:18 PM

none of the ships have toilets!

In all fairness, Jariten, Moby Dick (the movie) never included references to toilets.

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Just kidding, I have all those visual dictionaries and cross-sections. Text is worthless, the pictures are neat. That's about it.
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 07:21 PM

Well I watched the 2nd part tonight cos.. well, like ChefElf says, you just have to really (SW was my childhood, I can't help myself!) and it was more of the same. A bunch of dire jokes from Anthony "can't get another job" Daniels, scenes of scientfic things that although interesting had bugger all to do with SW, and clips of GL getting all high and mighty cos he's a "maveric" and an "inspirer".
He's inspired me to have him hunted down and shot like a womp rat.. does that count?!!
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 07:44 PM

Don't watch the Bill Moyers interview with Joeph Campbell "On The Powers of Myth" where GL is actually interviewed regarding the hero and the myth he has created.

He now believes he's up there with Homer, Virgil, Laxness and others...

"Well, I was really just trying to blow up models, make use of muppets, employ midget actors and push the special effects envelope to establish my dream of an SFX monopoly...but sure it's of mythic proportions"
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 07:57 PM

Well with the OT I'd almost defend him in that belief. He took from so much old school hero culture, classic movies, a lot of ancient history and took from many fairytales and especially from a book called 'The Heroes Journey' which I belive inspired many of Akira Kurosawa's films, whose movies inspired GL as well in fact (Kurosawa's 'The Fortress' is almost scene for scene taken and woven into the OT). That's really why the OT has so much heart and gave the 1970's post-Vietnam, cold war world a fairytale just for them and really why it has endured, and it didn't hurt that it invented modern day SFX to tell the story too.
As to what GL has done with this awesome legacy now.. if lots and lots of people weren't still so blinded by his incredible work of the OT, I don't think he'd have even been funded to make Episode 2.
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 08:10 PM

QUOTE (njamilla @ May 23 2005, 07:15 PM)
I've been wanting to do a sword fight comparison documentary, so I wonder how much they paid for the rights to include all the SW footage. When I worked for Discovery Channel (who also did these shows), they can easily pay a quarter of a million dollars for the lifetime rights to 15 seconds clip of an atomic bomb dropping.


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QUOTE (SPQR @ May 23 2005, 07:44 PM)
Don't watch the Bill Moyers interview with Joeph Campbell "On The Powers of Myth" where GL is actually interviewed regarding the hero and the myth he has created.


I would have liked that a lot more if it was an interview from the 80's. As soon as Moyers started talking about how awesome it was that Darth Maul looked like a demon I just switched it off. dry.gif
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 08:10 PM

I haven't actually seen the documentary, so I'm going out on a limb and still posting a comment on this topic. The common notion seems to be that science has nothing to do with SW. I beg to differ. The SW world is essentially different from our own in two aspects. First, there is that wonderful supernatural element, i.e. the Force and its countless possibilities. Second, there is that technological element, which is so advanced that we have a fair bit of research to do in order to catch up.
For me, one of the main thrills of SW is that it stimulates the imagination and makes you fascinated enough to write posts such as this. I donīt see why this fascination should be confined only to the supernatural element, and not to the many brilliant gadgets and machines of the SW universe. I am, for instance, very anxious to see the blueprints of the first Swedish AT-AT walker - although I adnit that I probably will have to wait for some time.
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 08:15 PM

I don't think anyone is necessarily disagreeing with the idea behind the documentary. I think it appears to just be a really half-assed documentary that is the problem. smile.gif

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 08:15 PM

Let me rephrase, don't watch it if you want to see Lucas taken too seriously by himself and others.

Otherwise it's a great documentary which sheds some light on all the symbolism prevalent in Myth. I think Campbell may have had a point now that GL is undoubtedly more famous then Virgil or Homer were in their times. We'll never live to see if he was right. Maybe GL wants people to analyze his ROTS piece centuries from now as a commentary on the times.
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