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Posted 23 May 2005 - 08:39 AM

QUOTE (jariten @ May 23 2005, 04:49 AM)
He was, that was the point.
I would love to see you try to prove that.


The funny thing is that in this little world here, the majority do not like the ROTS. Go outside to the main world and speak to a lot of people and a good amount were pretty happy with how the film went. Just like you cannot take the FOrce.net reviews seriously, I do not think one can take teh posts here that seriously. One defends everything Lucas does, this one bashes everything Lucas has done. The majority of rational people are in the middle where they did not like the first 2 prequels but were happy with ROTS. I am one of them. I did not dissect the film like a frog in a high school bio class, b/c I choose not to...I will leave that to chefelf. And like the other "Thing I hate" I am sure there are going to be some that are right on and others were it is completely trivial. In the end, who cares? If you enjoy the film good for you, if you did not same thing.
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 08:49 AM

People did laugh about it, that's a sad fact, all over the world- Madam Corvax

QUOTE (jariten @ May 23 2005, 04:49 AM)
I would love to see you try to prove that.

Let's see. MC, a Pole attests.

American Raises Hand: Despondent laughed.

Any others?
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 08:49 AM

I thought the Vader entrance was fine. You people just want something to gripe about, I guess. I really don't understand what the problem is. I really don't.
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 09:32 AM

I think the 'nooo' was the worst part of the vader transition. I think that when he got the bad news, he should have stayed silent, and then more stuff should have exploded behind him, like an earth quake kind of effect, with sparks of dark-side electricity in places. This should have lasted for a quite a while, maybe with close-ups of Vader's hands in fists, clenched tight and shaking. I also believe that having the mask put on him should have been the end of the film - hear his first few breaths, then end, that would have been more dramatic. So what I said above would happen while he was being operated on. Then he could totally lose hope, and the earthquake would stop, and the helmet goes on.

But the 'nooo' was the worst, it was so lame. The other stuff, the order in which stuff happened and everything, that wasn't so bad. But just the amateurishness of saying 'nooo'... I dunno. maybe some people thought it was appropriate. I agree that it was almost comical.
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 11:02 AM

I think the ending was perfect. LEAVE THE ENDING ALONE! HAHA!
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 11:28 AM

QUOTE (StarWarsIsUs @ May 23 2005, 08:49 AM)
I thought the Vader entrance was fine. You people just want something to gripe about, I guess. I really don't understand what the problem is. I really don't.

I don't either. It's completely realistic.

My only explanation is that people here have never seen someone react to bad news in their entire life.
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 11:35 AM

QUOTE (Storm @ May 23 2005, 04:28 PM)
I don't either.  It's completely realistic.

My only explanation is that people here have never seen someone react to bad news in their entire life.


I have never seen or heard of anyone saying 'noooooo' upon hearing bad news. Maybe 'No...' or 'Oh my God' etc. But never an extended 'noooo'. Footage of 9/11 shows basically everyone saying 'Oh my God' over and over. And even so, even if people do say 'noooo', just the way he said it seemed like bad voice acting. I dunno, there's something about it that was cheese in my opinion. I have heard better 'no's. I am not trying to be pedantic or anything, it really did stick out for me, it seemed out of place. Maybe I've watched too many other movies where people say 'noooo' in a comedic fashion, and so it has been drilled into me that it cannot be taken seriously anymore.
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 11:51 AM

QUOTE (Storm @ May 22 2005, 11:12 PM)
It has never been clearer to me than now that hardly any people here understand human emotions.


Ahh see - Luke - good human guy
- Vader - Evil Sith Lord.

Though on a perosnal note, I didn't find the 'Noooooooo' so bad. Certainly the scene would have been better without the 'Noooo', but in a movie full of bad scenes it was hardly the worst. whistling.gif
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 11:53 AM

QUOTE (jariten @ May 23 2005, 02:49 AM)
He was, that was the point.
I would love to see you try to prove that.


If it helps, a couple did laugh at the showing I went for, and the girl ahead of me (a star wars fan) hung her head - one can only presume in shame.
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 11:54 AM

QUOTE (Richard @ May 23 2005, 11:35 AM)
I have never seen or heard of anyone saying 'noooooo' upon hearing bad news. 

What about Luke, Vader's son?
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 12:02 PM

QUOTE (Storm @ May 23 2005, 04:54 PM)
What about Luke, Vader's son?


Luke was just disagreeing with Vader in that scene
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 12:20 PM

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and the girl ahead of me (a star wars fan) hung her head - one can only presume in shame.


I suggest you track her down to discover the truth! do what must be done...do not hesitate...etc.
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 12:24 PM

Luke's "nooo" was a lot more cheesier than Vader's.
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Posted 23 May 2005 - 10:15 PM

QUOTE (Storm @ May 23 2005, 01:12 AM)
I await a legitimate defence to the point I made.

It has never been clearer to me than now that hardly any people here understand human emotions.

This would be an acceptable scene to people on these forums.

VADER: Is Padme all right?

SIDIOUS:  It appears as though in your anger that you killed her.

VADER:  No, I couldn't have.....

VADER:  Oh well.  That's unfortunate.  But I'm Darth Vader now, the man in the suit.  I can't exhibit any emotion.  Let's go choke people.



you really are quite humourless...

but okay...

lukes was a reaction to something he didn't know...

and he said: "no, that's impossible..." and it was in a conversation...

it was dramatic.

vader chokes his wife until she drops, then fights his 'best friend'
he get's put in the suit (while still smouldering) and askes about padme, then gets up walks across the room, put his hands in a totally weak fistshaking position and yells a suspended "NOoooooooooooooooooooooo" for no real reason. no one in the history of the universe has ever yelled "Nooooooooooooooooo" after a converstion...

it's a soap opera thing.... a jerry bruckhiemer thing....

it was poorly co-ordinated and executed and it was way to full of cheese...

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Palpatine: you killed her.
Vader: *drops head in despair, remains silent for a moment* Then there is nothing left for me back there...
Palapatine: then your journey to the darkside is complete


or something, i'm at work, i can do better...
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Posted 24 May 2005 - 03:38 AM

It could have been much worse:

Boba Fett enters the scene and hands a parched Vader an ice cold Pepsi.
Vader: "What happened to..."
Palp: "Padme? She's dead"
Vader: "No...my sony PSP i left on the sofa?"
Palp: "It's in my throne room, I solved that game you were playing..."
Vader: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
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