[Just another wretched fan]

alright, its 3 am, so i'll have to give you all the details in the morning, i hope "sleeping on it" doesn't change me too much.

my brother somehow mangaged to get midnight tickets and of course i agreed to go, along with my uncle who was there in the beginning.

anyway....

Everyone cheered when we saw "Along time ago..."

Amazing space battle. I really liked the first 7 minutes. Then i wondered why the parasite droids Obi-Wan's ship didn't just explode and kill him.
Then i wondered why there wasn't vacuum in the hanger if there were only droids in there. They could have sucked Anakin and Obi-Wan into space and killed them outright. Then i wondered why the battle droids kept trying to capture Anakin and Obi-Wan. Its a war, they should kill them, or at least shoot artoo. (I got an explanation later but Palpatine's plan is so stupid. He nearly died when the battleship reentered the atmosphere)


People in the packed theater laughed at the first two visual jokes. Then didn't laugh at a single punchline until one near the end. When Yoda took out the two imperial guardsmen.

BTW, Yoda crawling through the vents reminded me of a scene with bishop from ALIENS or just about any Star Trek jeffrey's tube face shot scene.


When the camera showed Padme looking strangely ugly in an early scene, someone shouting "YOU'RE NOT HOT!"


All i'll say tonight is that when the film ended, only THREE people out of a packed theater clapped.

i could have sworn i saw a tear in the eye my uncle, a veteran of opening night 1977.

We walked out of the theater in almost total silence, people did not speak about the movie. Even after AOTC people were making sound effects and saying "aw dude!"

None of the men in the packed post-flick restroom said a word.

On the walk to the car my uncle actually kept the topic of coversation off Star Wars to some upbeat story about learning to appreciate Bill Murray.

When we finally reached the car we talked about Vader's appearance.

Its too depressing to talk about. You can't even parody it.

My optimistic uncle walked out a basher.

There were many...images...and scenes i really enjoyed. i'll get to them in the morning.

In a nutshell, i'd say it was like a porn video. Everyone was just waiting to get through the porn movie dialogue and porn movie plot and the porn star acting just to set up the action. i'd also say it resembled a Britney Spears music video. Great if you just muted the damn thing.

So many questions (if i cared), this isn't even the start.

Why were the wookiees in the film again?
Why was Grievous coughing?
How come a kid jedi can kill 4 stormtroopers but jedi masters can't take out any?
So a lizard ran as fast as a truck?
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. So the intimate conversation between Palatine and Anakin was on Video for several DAYS before the slaughter?
So artoo still has jets huh?
How much weight did Palpatine loose between episodes III and VI?
Why did Obi-Wan leave Anakin to suffer?
So Palpatine is Vader's father?
Why didn't Obi-Wan finish off Anakin?
to quote my uncle "Why were they fighting again?"


Sleepy time, i'll get back to this in the morning

This post has been edited by Just another wretched fan: 19 May 2005 - 03:34 AM

[Just another wretched fan]

OH shit, i forgot. The first time i saw Obi-Wan all i could think of was MOOOOOOOOOLE

moley moley moley MOLE(s).

Holey Moley.

Mole.


Moooooooooooooooole.

I couldn't focus on the film in any closeup of his face.

[Storm]

OH shit, i forgot. The first time i saw Obi-Wan all i could think of was MOOOOOOOOOLE

moley moley moley MOLE(s).

Holey Moley.

Mole.
Moooooooooooooooole.

I couldn't focus on the film in any closeup of his face.

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You must hate every film starring Robert DeNiro then. And that's just insanely sad that you would use that as an excuse to partially hate the movie.

This post has been edited by Storm: 19 May 2005 - 05:18 AM

[BinarySunset]

When we finally reached the car we talked about Vader's appearance.

Its too depressing to talk about. You can't even parody it.

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JAWF, I can only say one thing about Vader's appearance:

George got ahold of some bad stuff that day and when he snorted/smoked it, this is the result.

I read an interview on a Hayden site (yes, I know... ) anyway, Christensen talked about the Vader costume and how George deliberately had it made to be awkward and cumbersome because he wanted to give a first time walking in his new body type of thing [the italics are my emphasis]. According to this interview, George didn't want Vader to have any kind of "swagger" yet, because as George said, "it's all new to him".

I have nothing to say; but I thought folks would like to know this bit of info from "Uncle George".

[StarWarsIsUs]

Lucas' idea of making Vader move ackward was actually a good idea. I will have to see this movie and the whole scene in order to tell for sure.

[Just another wretched fan]

its how you could sum up the whole pt

"good idea, poor execution"

just see it for yourself and notice the silence in the crowd.

no cheering in my theater.

[HeckHouse]

I didn't mind Vader being awkward, but I think his pose when screaming should have been something different. Maybe he should have yelled, broke free, then fall to his knees.

[StarWarsIsUs]

Maybe he could fall to his knees and sob.

[J m HofMarN]

Vader dosnt need to be shown taking his first faltering steps, unless the scene is for dramatic purposes and not just to show that it occured.

[Storm]

I can already tell this scene is going to get a lot of harsh criticism.

However, keep in mind that he lost his legs and it must be extremely awkward to walk with robotic legs for the first time. I couldn't help but feel sorry for Anakin seeing that he has lost everything, and his first few steps as Vader really make you feel kind of bad for him. He's crippled.

Furthermore, his scream is appropriate. He gave up his life as a Jedi and turned to the Dark Side just so he could save Padme....and she died anyways. If there was no emotional response on Vader's part to the news of Padme's death, then the scene would have made absolutely no sense.

This post has been edited by Storm: 19 May 2005 - 03:59 PM

[darthsmash]

its how you could sum up the whole pt

"good idea, poor execution"

just see it for yourself and notice the silence in the crowd.

no cheering in my theater.

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A little OT (not Original Trilogy - the other one) perhaps:
OK as a non-American this whole "cheering in the theater thing that gets mentioned from time to time sounds kind of..........weird. I've never seen cheering or applause at the end of a movie in Australia and the whole idea seems a little off. Especially at the end of a film that is, supposed to be at any rate, dark and tragic. As someone else pointed out its not like the people who made the movie can hear you.

[jariten]

I like how a scene can only be deemed sucessful if theres a lot of cheering in the cinema.

Maybe they should install a 'clap-o-meter' and have just have that in place of reviews.

The Vader scene was great. Staggers out like Frankenstein, and Palpatine grins and hes got him. Tragic.

[Slade]

Staggering works since he's just been burnt to a crisp and given an animatronic body and all. Though if I were he, I'd be more pissed that the bastard kept me alive after becoming a quadrapalegic. (And I'd at least try to act.) But that scream was so cliche I covered my eyes in shame.

I would assume Obi-Wan didn't finish Anakin because he was, you know, BURNING TO DEATH. People normally don't survive losing three limbs at once and catching on fire.

Edit: People all laughed at the obvious jokes in my theater too. Same ones you pointed out. And while we're on the subject of dumb bad guys, there are lots of times when there are ten or so droids facing the backs of the jedi and don't do anything.

This post has been edited by Slade: 20 May 2005 - 03:16 AM

[Jordan]

Vader had to look like he did in episode 4, or as I refer to as 'old school vader'.

Ya, hayden is not a big guy, it's good that vader looked akward and old skool.

It's about the only thing that remained consistent.

[StarWarsIsUs]

It wasn't the Vader suit design from the OT, Jordan. The suit was purposefully made different as to show 'primitive' technology.