[SithAvenger]

Let's have a special party for R2! Now, let's send a bitch to clean R2.

[A Link to the Past]

Obi-Wan is a Force Ghost, and so, he appears in V and VI.

[Giff]

...So the winner is........

R2D2!!!

He really does deserve our gratitude.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It is to be commended.

[The Lord of Dorkness]

Of course R2D2 is the winner, GL has actually stated that HE is the one telling the story (I'm not joking). So how could he tell the story if he didn't live it?

[Despondent]

Do we have a vote for "the Force"?

is the OT Force as different from the PT Force as
Vader is from Annie?

[Charamei]

Do we have a vote for "the Force"?

is the OT Force as different from the PT Force as
Vader is from Annie?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yes.

OT: The Force is a mystic energy field that surrounds us and penetrates us. It is in all things. Without exception.

PT: The Force is little insects in your bloodstream. Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

This post has been edited by Charamei: 07 August 2005 - 05:33 AM

[Despondent]

but if it's different, than it can't be (the same character) in all six movies.

Sorry. Of course it makes perfect sense.

[Zatoichi]

I wouldn't call "the Force" a character per se. It is more of a give and take kind of thing with a few personified qualities.

I really hate to argue about something that I think is total crap, but calling them "little insects" is wrong. (Sadly) Midichlorians allow a living being to "sigh" tap into the force in proportion to how many have chosen to reside in you (which is by the way total bull). These are just used as a slipshod plot device used to prove that Anakin would be the most powerful jedi ever (Which it turns out he wasn't). Just cause ya know, nobody could detect a friggin "great disturbance in the Force". And why not, the disturbances aren't always bad. The Emperor could detect Luke across the galaxy. Qui-gon was standing right next to Anakin. How much non-effort do you think it would take for him to figure out Anakin was strong in the force.

[Icey]

But to me Anakin and Vader are two different persons. It's like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. They are the same entity but they are two DIFFERENT characters.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I couldn't disagree with you more. I rarely stumble in here, but sometimes I run out of people to push.

Annie has a very interesting character arc, poorly executed one, but a good one all the same. He goes from little confused boy, to an ambitious jedi that is trying to find out what the hell he's supposed to be doing. This makes him an ideal target for good ol' Palps. He leads him down the darkside, abusing his friendship with him and twisting his mind around, making him give up and lose everything he really cares for, the twins and Padmé. Then in the Reven... I mean Return of the Jedi he sees the Emperor frying Luke, just like Mace Windu where his mind goes off.

Fuck, I killed my wife, my mentor and closest thing I got to a brother and now I'm going to lose my children by being Palpy's attack dog?

He's propably in his fifties by then and has never been his own man. At that moment he decides to rebel and FINALLY becomes an adult and a man. That's why Obi and Anakin are on good terms as ghosts, he's just so damn proud of his little padawan finally becoming a man.