General Yoda
#16
Posted 19 May 2005 - 10:43 AM
Yoda---a general, NO! Obi-Wan, yes, because that's what he was called in ANH. Again, Yoda was never called "General Yoda" anywhere else, and again, it goes against his, wars don't make you great line.
Battle for the Galaxy--read the "other Star Wars"
All I know is I haven't seen the real prequels yet.
#17
Posted 19 May 2005 - 11:10 AM
I disagree. It's not absolutely impossible, presuming that he was insanely talented (for which there's no evidence), but going from civilian to General in two years is still a hell of a stretch. Lucas should have made him a much older man with previous military experience; then it would have made a lot more sense.
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#18
Posted 19 May 2005 - 11:33 AM
"Short I am, but my butt you all must kiss!" (Yoda addressing the Clone troops, Episode 3, deleted scene)
Add to the fact that he's green, has big sticky out ears and male pattern baldness despite being only in his early 900's and we have a seriously screwed up little sabre-wielding Hitler on our hands
Obi-Wan got to be General cos he's got a dodgy beard and bad hair. Look at all those pictures of the old American Civil War generals. Spot the similarity?
Oh yes, doesn't a certain someone who carries a lot of weight with Star Wars films also have a beard and bad hair?
This post has been edited by Code Red: 19 May 2005 - 11:34 AM
#19
Posted 20 May 2005 - 11:22 AM
Well, given what we see of him in the first two prequels, I figure it would be reasonable for him to be given a commission at the beginning of hostilities. Not a general-grade or field-grade officer, but perhaps a Captain. From there, rapid promotion in wartime might make him a General by the end of the wars. (Although being a general in ROTS would be a bit much.)
I suppose a better question would be "Who in the PT displays the strategic, tactical, and leadership skills necessary to make a good general?" The talent pool might well have been awfully small.
#20
Posted 20 May 2005 - 01:24 PM
People with low self esteem do tend to dream of riches, wealth, power, great influence, god-like abilities. But I'm not so sure this is the case with Yoda. He is down-to-earth enough that he probably can see past all the dellusions that come with being really really short... and green. With wisdom (which Yoda has), comes great understanding of what is really going on around us. Don't you agree?
#21
Posted 20 May 2005 - 02:08 PM
I suppose a better question would be "Who in the PT displays the strategic, tactical, and leadership skills necessary to make a good general?" The talent pool might well have been awfully small.
I don't remember Obi-Wan demonstrating any strategic or tactical skills in the PT. We saw him investigate the clone business, fight a couple of lightsaber duels and get his arse kicked by Dooku, and that was all. A better question might be "Who in the PT has more than two brain cells to rub together?", for which the pool of possible candidates is equally small.
- J m HofMarN on the Sand People
#22
Posted 20 May 2005 - 02:43 PM
#23
Posted 20 May 2005 - 05:06 PM
Huh? He was Anakin's master, but that was a one-to-one relationship - hardly equivalent to leading a squad of troops, let alone a whole army.
- J m HofMarN on the Sand People
#24
Posted 20 May 2005 - 05:22 PM
#25
Posted 20 May 2005 - 11:57 PM
#26
Posted 21 May 2005 - 08:43 AM
For God's sake, there must be someone in the galaxy with military experience of some kind. Presumably at least some of the Republic's systems have their own armies, so why not choose a commander from amongst their ranks? Picking Yoda just because he's a Jedi, when all he normally seems to do is sit around and ramble on about the Force, is ridiculous. You can't even argue that he himself might have fought in previous wars, as the movies state that there hasn't been a war for at least 1000 years.
Oh, and on the 'it's just a small part of the movie' thing, that is technically true. However, combined with the other 437185492 'small' problems with the Prequels - plus several very major ones - it adds up to a very big problem indeed. If the movies were actually any good we would be able to overlook a few minor problems, but they're not.
- J m HofMarN on the Sand People
#28
Posted 21 May 2005 - 02:19 PM
#29
Posted 21 May 2005 - 02:30 PM
I'm talking about individual planets, not the Republic as a whole. Surely there must be some planets with their own military forces, especially since the Republic doesn't have its own army to defend them? It would seem far more sensible to put an experienced military commander in charge of the army than a Jedi, especially given that Yoda SAYS the Jedi are not soldiers. Being generically 'wise' does not mean you're necessarily going to have the qualities needed to be a good military leader, e.g. tactical knowlege and strategic ability.
This post has been edited by Helena: 21 May 2005 - 02:30 PM
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#30
Posted 21 May 2005 - 02:34 PM