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Posted 11 May 2005 - 09:53 AM

Is it just me, or is there no difference between legal and illegal drugs apart from the fact that one is legal and the other's illegal? I smoke a twenty pack of cigarettes a day and frequently get drunk, both of which are completely legal. I also spend large amounts of time under the influence of ganja and LSD, both of which are completely illegal. Am I the only one to find that a little hyprocritical? Cigarettes will kill you just as effectively as heroin. And nicotine is proven to be about 4 times as addictive as heroin. What the fuck is with that? I'm not saying I want to do heroin, but it would be nice to have the choice without risking time in the slammer.

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Posted 11 May 2005 - 01:45 PM

Well, when people were deciding what was illegal and what wasn't, they took a good look at the economy. There was way too much industry in tobacco to make it illegal, and when they tried banning alcohol everyone just procured it illegally anyway. LSD was made illegal in the 70s because nixon despised hippys and liked to make their lives miserable, essentially.

Alcohol kills brain cells literally and also causes liver/kidney damage, THC just gunks up the neurotransmitters in your brain, but marijuana is illegal and in the lovely state of New York, people can go to jail for something like ten years just for possession of it.

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Posted 11 May 2005 - 09:23 PM

He wasn't saying illegalise alcohol, he was saying legalise drugs.
Look at the Netherlands, they have legal marijuana and as a result the lowest drug-related injury/death/incapacitation rate in the world.
Then look at Indonesia, they have the harshest drug penalities in the world and people are queing up to smuggle drugs in for the illegal enjoyment of the populace.

I agree with you Voodoo Dog... But only about marijuana in the baked goods form, psychoactives in low doses under controlled circumstances and heroin as a medicinal drug (seeing as quality heroin is less 'muck u up' than many heavy anaesthetics and sedatives.)
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Posted 11 May 2005 - 09:30 PM

It's always good to know that you can molest a child and still get out of jail before that stoner two cells down.

Marajuana, I would like research to be able to be done before legalization. It was in an earlyer thread that someone said that MJ was in the same catigory of narcotics as Cocaine and Heroin; therefore, we can't even research it to prove it has medicly useful.

Damnit we use opium to treat cancer patients (Oxy-contin) but love brownies to treat glacoma is a big no-no, that pisses me off to no end.
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Posted 11 May 2005 - 09:36 PM

Well, if someone said it in another thread, it must be true!

Marijuana is technically a hallucinogen, but it's definately not at all anything like heroin or cocaine.

And Video Goer (I'm going to call you that, I'm not going to spell out your new name): I know, I was just throwing in some more hypocracy using historical anecdotes. I'm all for legalization.

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Posted 11 May 2005 - 09:37 PM

I could understand why marijuana is held in the same breath as cocaine, but heroin?

Marijuana, you grow the crop, you harvest the crop, you use the oil in baked goods, the leaves for cheap weed and the buds for good weed - cocaine, you grow, you harvest, you process to a certain extent, you cut with baking soda (sometimes) you give it to somebody elses nose and let it eat away at their septum.

Heroin, you grow the crop, you make small incisions in the seeds, you harvest the latex that forms from the sap that is released, you grind it to powder, you transform it to morphine, you pretend to be running a fish cannery/pickling factory to hide the vinegar smell of transforming morphine to diacetyl-morphine and then turn that to heroin. Its a seriously extensively transformed product. Then for some reason people cut it - thats stupid... cause when you cut it you lower its chemical purity to expand the mass to sell more... but why would you raise the chemical purity in the first place if you were just going to cut it? Drug lords are stupid.

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Posted 11 May 2005 - 09:42 PM

Maryjane isn't legal in the netherlands... it's just so low priority there that think rapists, murderes and crime sindicates are more important to worry about...

there is not one organ in your body that doesn't suffer damage from alcohol. and marijuanna doesn't make people start fights in public with strangers (except the 1 out of 1000 person who smokes too much and gets waaaay yo paranoid).

so MJ should be legal...

LSD is a bit different, as much as i like it... it's still a bit risky...
and it effects different people in a whole range of ways that would not be cool if everyone were taking it...

speed (the sniffing kind) is fine... but cocain makes people assholes!!!

and only certain people should be allowed to drink.
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Posted 11 May 2005 - 09:50 PM

Then has all the stuff I've heard from legitimate sources about cafes where you can perfectly legally get an entertaining cake or cookie with your coffee false.
Curse misleading information!
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Posted 13 May 2005 - 12:40 AM

no, it's just at a point where it may as well be legal.

there are some really wierd rules about it. you can go to sparky bar, but i think the law requires you to at least purchase a coffee or snack there too.

so er...

you can only have pot if you cure the munchies while you're there or if you have a legal drug with it...

you're not alowed to carry it around though...

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Posted 13 May 2005 - 11:32 AM

Salvia: Un-made-laws-about hallucinogen. Might even try some this weekend. Yay!
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 04:50 AM

Drugs are the reason why you guys are such kittens, and the reasons behind your turtle thoughts and ideals!!!!!

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Posted 14 May 2005 - 08:44 AM

Yep! Aint it great?
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 08:35 PM

Good call, Slade, nice edit.

Hmmm... does anyone beyond Galactic Conquest fully disagree - cause it seems consensus has been reached.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 08:43 PM

For me:

Marajuwana yes
Most other things no

Sorry about breaking the whole unanimus vote thing, but I beleive that there is enough evidance against the other drugs.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 09:21 PM

QUOTE (Galactic-Conquest @ May 14 2005, 04:50 AM)
Drugs are the reason why you guys are such kittens, and the reasons behind your turtle thoughts and ideals!!!!!


turtle thoughts?

as apposed to the overglorification of imbreeding? or indulgence in softdrink company endorced music?

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i may smoke the odd jay by my mind is far more advanced then that of the typical 'human' speciman.. trust me.
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