[Lord Aquaman]

I posted this in the "Prequels According to Us" but it was ignored, so I'm going to pull a troll manuever and write it again separately.

This may be way out of the left field (and completely stupid) but I have to ask - should Anakin's mother have had blonde hair? One of the things that stood out to me about Pernilla August, who played Anakin's mom in Episodes 1 and 2, was that she not only bore no resemblance to Jake Lloyd & Hayden Christensen, but that she sported dark hair (if anything, she looked more like the mom of Natalie Portman). Seeing as how little Anakin had blonde hair and stalker Anakin had kind of this dirty blonde hair - which was passed on to Luke - I can't help wondering if they should have at least hired a blonde actress to play the mother of our favorite half maimed machine man.

[CowboyCurtis]

The funny thing is.... I never expected Anakin to have blonde hair. I always thought Leia was more like Vader in more ways than Luke. So, I had imagined him with dark hair... just like he is at the end of ROTJ (BEFORE THE HAYDEN ABOMINATION)... so, if Anakin had been dark haired, Shmi would've been perfect.

I had actually imagined Lady Skywalker to have the blonde hair.

But to answer your question. It would've made more sense to have her with blond hair... a matching accent... and younger?

[Helena]

The funny thing is.... I never expected Anakin to have blonde hair.  I always thought Leia was more like Vader in more ways than Luke.

Same here - Leia always seemed like the more assertive, 'dominant' character. However, you can have a similar personality to a parent without resembling them physically.

It is possible for dark-haired parents to have a fair-haired child, as fair hair is a recessive gene. But Anakin's 'virgin birth' is impossible enough in the first place without worrying about his hair colour. Let's just think about this:

To create a baby you need two sex cells, not one, as each one only contains half the necessary chromosomes. In the stratospherically unlikely event of two eggs fertilising each other (which does occasionally happen in some species due to a rare genetic disorder, though there are no confirmed cases in humans), the child would be a girl, as a Y chromosome is needed to produce a boy. If the child had only one sex chromosome (which does occasionally happen in humans), it would again become a girl by default.

If the theory about Palpatine using Midichlorians or whatever to create Anakin is true, he deserves the highest congratulations - he's just disproved one of the most fundamental laws of biology. Think of the implications for fertility treatment! Why bother taking over the galaxy when he could publish his results and make trillions of credits?

[Lord Aquaman]

To create a baby you need two sex cells, not one, as each one only contains half the necessary chromosomes. In the stratospherically unlikely event of two eggs fertilising each other (which does occasionally happen in some species due to a rare genetic disorder, though there are no confirmed cases in humans), the child would be a girl, as a Y chromosome is needed to produce a boy. If the child had only one sex chromosome (which does occasionally happen in humans), it would again become a girl by default.

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So that's why Anakin's so effeminate in Episode II...

[Helena]

So that's why Anakin's so effeminate in Episode II...

I resent that. Calling Episode II Anakin 'effeminate' is an insult to women everywhere.

[Lord Aquaman]

I resent that. Calling Episode II Anakin 'effeminate' is an insult to women everywhere.

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Sorry.

[Helena]

Just kidding.

[Chefelf]

I dunno, I never thought Anakin's mom would be involved in the story in any way so I didn't spend a lot of time thinking of her hair color.

Was she really necessary other than to provide the whole virgin birth scenario?

[Lord Aquaman]

Just kidding.

Was she really necessary other than to provide the whole virgin birth scenario? - Chefelf

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1) I can't tell some times, I really can't.

2) The virgin birth scenario should never have been a part of the equation (along with Jar Jar and Qui-Gon), but seeing as how it was a part of the scenario I couldn't help wondering why he didn't look more like her.

[J m HofMarN]

Sure she was necessary. On the surface she provided a great motivation for Anakin's fall to the dark side. "I want my mommy. Therefore I will become a complete asshole" Is apparently the best motivation we can get out of Lucas.

I think Qui Gon could have worked if he'd been in a different position, however there are certain things that simply should not be. Anakin's mom had no business being in the movie. Lucas didnt even make a secret about this. She had no character development, her last words are completemy imemmoriable, and her only important scenes were "here, have a kid." and "blarg, the sand people killed me for no reason."

Young Boba Fett and Anakin should not exist either. The greatest bounty hunter in the galaxy and the dark lord of the Sith may have been kids at one time. They may have played with dolls. They may have loved their parents a lot. But that dosnt mean we need to see it!

[CowboyCurtis]

I don't think including Anakin's mom was a bad idea... virgin birth, though, is a bad idea.

I love Pernilla August. She is a fine actress, but when they announced her to play the part, I was totally, "WTF!?" I'm not sure who I would've imagined, but certainly not a foreign actress---with a noticeable accent. At least Ewan McGregor researched Alec Guiness and did a pretty good job on the accent.

Don't you think the moment Pernilla met little "yippee" American-bred Lloyd, that she (a consumate actress) would've affected an American accent? (Since I wouldn't expect a kid actor to affect his accent).

And to top it off--no one else around Tatooine seemed to have that accent--especially not Owen and Beru--so WTF!)

As a side question---who did the casting for this film?! I know Lucas made final choices, but the casting director goes through the throng first and then presents his/her finals to the director...

Once again, a person of value from the OT replaced by someone less than up to par.

This post has been edited by CowboyCurtis: 25 April 2005 - 08:15 PM

[barend]

Anikan didn't need a reason to fall to the dark side...

it just like the way to go...

people don't need that much of a reason to go evil...

[Mnesymone]

The development of Yoda's "Worried about your mother are you, tiny tot? Doom civilisation you will, Dark Side of the Force consume your destiny and all shall perish in flames because of this. Hmmm heh heh heh!" was lame.
A 9-year old worries about his mother.
A 19-year old is moody and creepy, and after his mother, who he worried about yet did nothing about is slain he becomes vengeful - then when he hears his master is in trouble he presses the pause on descent to evil and goes and rescues him
End Point - Darth Vader helps the Emperor exterminate the Jedi.
Pigs Fly, Flying Monkeys swim.

As for Pernilla August and Shmi - the character was unecessary, the role ill-founded and ill-fleshed, the name crappy, the actress wasted.
There was one moment where she looked at Qui-Gon and you can Liam Neeson thinking "how did I get roped into this crap" and Pernilla August going "Curse that Lucas man for getting me into this crappy movie" - two good actors resenting the fact that they are in this movie.

[CowboyCurtis]

LOL!!! And here some fans have been thinking that there was "something between" those two in that scene...

[Mnesymone]

I thought there was something between them - but only the two good actors lamenting their crap roles - It also tells poorly on George Lucas that the best 'chemistry' scene between any of his characters was one COMPLETELY UNINTENDED AND UNNOTICED BY HIM!