[Lord Aquaman]

Brandon Routh really should have been cast as the Green Lantern instead of Superman.

[Kirby]

What's really sad is that it could have been worse.

Tim Burton was slated to direct Superman script Kevin "Dogma" Smith wrote, but Burton hated the script, as did producer Jon Peters. Burton, who brags about how he never reads comic books, wanted to make things fast and loose and Jon Peters wanted something that would just give them room to make a lot of toys, and they didn't like the faithfulness of Smith's script. Needless to say having a guy who refuses to read comics in the boat with a guy who does like comics just isn't a good match. Burton and Peters wanted to get rid of the classic Superman suit and they didn't want him to fly - they wanted him to wear the all black suit with the silver 'S' emblem and at one point actually had Superman travelling around in a "Super Mobile" and teleporting himself as opposed to flying. I also hear that Burton wanted to get rid of Nicholas Cage, another comic book lover, and replace him with Ralph Fiennes (Feinnes? never can get that name spelled right) and/or Sean Penn. And I heard they wanted Smith to add a gay robot companion for Brainiac and to have Superman's Fortress of Solitude guarded by polar bears.

I don't like a lot of what I've heard about Bryan Singer's approach to this movie, but after hearing what Burton and Peters wanted to do, Singer's stuff doesn't sound quite as bad. Still terrible, but not as bad.

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Whazwha!? No, fucking NO!

Hell even if they didn't read comic books they do know who Superman is right? Didn't they at least catch the cartoons, the live TV shows, the movies, the saturday news-paper funnies, the merchandising, the EVERYTHING? I refuse to beleive it, nobody can be that stupid.

Even the Suits and Execs wouldn't green light such a peice of shit, they are there to make money and a teleporting, flightless, gothic Superman will not make money.

PS: I could see him as a Kyle Rainer

[Lord Aquaman]

Whazwha!? No, fucking NO!

Hell even if they didn't read comic books they do know who Superman is right? Didn't they at least catch the cartoons, the live TV shows, the movies, the saturday news-paper funnies, the merchandising, the EVERYTHING? I refuse to beleive it, nobody can be that stupid.

Even the Suits and Execs wouldn't green light such a peice of shit, they are there to make money and a teleporting, flightless, gothic Superman will not make money.

PS: I could see him as a Kyle Rainer

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Well, the suits DID make 2004's Catwoman along with King Arthur. I'd rather not remember Daredevil or Elektra.

I figured from the get go that Routh looked more like Kyle Rayner or even Nightwing than Superman.

[Lord Aquaman]

Superman spoilers - First off, an astronomer is able to see the remains of Krypton and its big news. Not very clear but enough to see that the remains of the planet of Krypton are in pieces. Clark Kent/Superman finds it necessary to find out if there are any survivors or is he truly the last son of Krypton. Superman goes to the Fortress of Solitude and “grows” himself a crystal ship and decides to travel to his home planet.

But here is where the problem arises, Superman is scheduled to testify against Lex Luthor but by him leaving the planet the state has to release Lex and drop all charges.

Superman leaves and does not tell anyone, including Lois Lane.

Lois Lane becomes angry at Superman during his absence and starts writing editorials about Superman, “The World Does Not Need Superman” type of stuff.

As a big fan of real estate, Lex ambitiously plans to make big bucks while Superman is away.

Lex Luthor knowing the location of the Fortress of Solitude decides to pay Superman a house call. It's obvious that Superman is not home. The Fortress of Solitude has a hole in the roof the shape of the Crystal Space Ship that is now en route to Krypton. Lex is free to raid this abandoned home.

Lex Luthor raids the entire Fortress and most of its secrets. It's not just collecting trinkets but the technology that he is after.

It's been some time, maybe even years, and Superman is finally arriving to his home planet of Krypton. He is not dressed in your traditional blue, red and yellow costume but instead a platinum colored suit without a cape.

What he sees shocks him. There remains large pieces of the planet intact floating in space. We even see the large white Dome that we are so familiar with from the first Donner film floating in space.

But as he gets closer he realizes that he is not feeling well. The explosion has created giant pieces Kryptonite. Actually, most of the remains of the planet are almost all Kryptonite. Instead of fleeing he decides to see the remains of his home planet. His ship flies through some giant canyons. He finds these giant statues that resemble the Argonaths from the Lord of the Rings movies. These statues are from past leaders of Krypton. These statues resemble the leader of Krypton that we first saw in the first Superman film.

Superman is finally content that he visited his home world and realizes that he is indeed the Last Son of Krypton.

While Superman was away Lex has been able to study all the Kryptonian technology that he stole from the Fortress. He is getting ready to start implementing his plan, to create a new continent.

The world has continued to live without its hero. It has been able to withstand wars, terrorists attacks and countless other tragedies.

Lois Lane has also continued on with her life. She is in a very serious relationship with Richard White who is portrayed by James Marsden and she is the mother of a young child. The big question is who is the father?

Superman comes back home after being away for a few years.

There is a private space shuttle launch that the whole world is watching. It's a Virgin shuttle on top of a large 777 type plane. Lois Lane , along with tons of other reporters, dignitaries and politicians are aboard the plane in what appears to be a historic event.

There is a malfunction and the shuttle damages the 777 rutter/tail upon its separation and the plane is now on its way back to the ground sure to meet its destruction.

But never fear especially when Superman is near. However, the world does not know that Superman has returned. Superman quickly arrives to try to stop this tragedy from happening. The plane is in a flat spin and he tries to grab a wing but the wing breaks off as he gets a hold of it. He knows that as fast as the plane is going down and spinning he could very easily injure everyone on board. Time is running out and he only has seconds to stop it.

On the ground there is a Championship baseball game going on and quickly the ball players and fans realize that there is a plane headed right towards them. Superman flies to the front of the plane and starts trying control it by its nose. The plane is about to hit the ground when instead of it crashing and burning to a thousand pieces we see the fuselage buckling under the pressure of Superman holding the very front of plane just a few feet away from the ground. The buckling effect is somewhat similar to what we see in the first Matrix film when the helicopter crashes into the building and we see the windows and building buckling and having a wave effect.

Superman gently puts the plane down right on the diamond and centerfield, quickly rips the doors off the plane to make sure that everyone is safe and okay. He goes through the cabin and sees Lois but does not talk to her. He gives the quick little speech that flying is still the safest way to travel (a la the first Superman movie) and quickly gets ready to fly away. When he gets to the door of the plane all the TV cameras that were broadcasting this game worldwide are now pointing right at Superman and his image is on the “giant screen (jumbotron) on the stadium centerfield. Click here for set pictures from LA shoot of Superman Returns!

The entire world now knows that “Superman has returned.”

This is the first part of this major spoiler report. The following reports will include details of a major earthquake in Metropolis, Superman confronting Lex in his “new apartment” (scene 272) and Superman being mortally wounded by …..

Why does it all seem so off?

[jariten]

how trustworthy do you think that spyreport is?

It sounds like someone made it up as they went along. If thats the version we see, it'll be awful.

[Lord Aquaman]

how trustworthy do you think that spyreport is?

It sounds like someone made it up as they went along. If thats the version we see, it'll be awful.

How trustworthy is any internet source?

I have a bad feeling about this new Superman film in general. The maroon lined costume with its belt buckle alone makes me cringe.

[Kirby]

Superman spoilers - First off, an astronomer is able to see the remains of Krypton and its big news. Not very clear but enough to see that the remains of the planet of Krypton are in pieces. Clark Kent/Superman finds it necessary to find out if there are any survivors or is he truly the last son of Krypton. Superman goes to the Fortress of Solitude and “grows” himself a crystal ship and decides to travel to his home planet.

Why does it all seem so off?

I don't know why, but this first paragraph is so wrong for me. First, we can't see shit in space. We don't have the ability to see things much smaller than a Star. Even then how does the astronamer know it's krypton and not some other random planet. Then, Superman grows a spaceship. Yes, I know he's an alien and has a few trinkets of technology, but damnit he's no scientist. He cannot just *poof* a Faster-Than-Light spaceship in his fort. Just from that one sentance my suspencion of disbelief snaped so hard I got whiplash.

It feels wrong because it is wrong.

[Lord Aquaman]

I don't know why, but this first paragraph is so wrong for me. First, we can't see shit in space. We don't have the ability to see things much smaller than a Star. Even then how does the astronamer know it's krypton and not some other random planet. Then, Superman grows a spaceship. Yes, I know he's an alien and has a few trinkets of technology, but damnit he's no scientist. He cannot just *poof* a Faster-Than-Light spaceship in his fort. Just from that one sentance my suspencion of disbelief snaped so hard I got whiplash.

It feels wrong because it is wrong.

I know how you feel.

CHRIS REEVE: "You know, now that I've seen what they've done with Spidey's costume for #3, suddenly your costume doesn't look so bad."
BRANDON ROUTH: "Thanks."
SPIDER-MAN: "You know, it really hurts my feelings when you guys say bad things about my new costume. Just because I've gone dark it doesn't mean I don't have feelings... It doesn't mean I don't cry... sniff... Super-Jerks!"