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Posted 21 April 2005 - 11:47 PM

When it comes to the rule of two...you could bend it to mean that there can be many dark force users in the galaxy...of which only 2 can be called Sith.

The only reason why i think the rule of two is worth holding onto is because KOTOR made it make sense. Although KOTOR takes place before Darth Bane's Sith reformation and there are many sith masters running around with apprentices. There can only be two Darths though.

The only reason why i cling to the "rule of two" is that i don't want to make KOTOR non-canon...because i feel its story is more legitimate and "canon" than the entire PT.

GL himself shows in the PT that while Maul and Sidious were the 2 sith. There was a dark-tempted jedi...Sypho Dias, ordering clones and erasing planets.

The force witches aren't Sith. Neither was Cybbaoth (sp) in the Thrawn triology, or even Jerek in Dark Forces II. (remember he had a boat-load of dark jedi for Kyle Katarn to duel)


As for neutral Jedi...KOTOR validates this concept with Jolee the "grey" hermit.
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Posted 21 April 2005 - 11:52 PM

Took me 4 hours to make the rough -draft outline last night. FOUR HOURS

That's probably more time than Lucas spent on it.
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Posted 22 April 2005 - 01:55 AM

Four hours more, most likely.

I used to think "Lucas had twenty years to work on this and he came up with THIS crap?"

But now I realise that he was actually goofing off all those years, getting fat, lazy and unimaginative.

Is this what a twenty year break does to people? Turns them into silly idiots?

This could be a topic for another thread, but I'd really like to work out what happened to Lucas. He has some very fine films to his name, that he actually wrote and/or directed.

Did something happen to him along the line?

In 1982, he made RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, the last good film he wrote. The very next year, he came out with RETURN OF THE JEDI, the film where the rot of commercialisation and lame resolutions infected STAR WARS.

What happened? Did he fall off a horse and hit his head or something?
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Posted 22 April 2005 - 06:10 AM

"It's Obi-Wan,not Obi-Won.

Also, Palpatine and the Dark Lord aren't the same person? But we know the Emperor's name in the OT is Palpatine. So how is that going to work? "

Sorry about the typo -
I didn't say that Palpatine doesn't become the Emperor.
I just said that the Dark Lord of the Sith isn't Palpatine.

There you have it. Spot the trick there.
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Posted 22 April 2005 - 08:21 AM

A treatment. That may be easier. Some scripts are hard to read. You know, just for the heck of it, I'm going to tell something. Sometime, about 3 months after AOTC came out for sale, I got on the internet on KazAA, and downloaded an Episode III script for Star Wars. But the person who wrote it, didn't know the name of the movie. I've read a storyline description of ROTS, and it seems that that this movie is going to have (in my estimate), a good 75% of the content I read on the script I downloaded a long time ago on KazAA. And let me tell you... the script sucked. Really bad.I don't know how this guy got ahold of it, or if he even wrote it... But I'm not telling any lies here. The only main noticeable thing from the script I read, and the movie, is the fight between Anakin and Obi-Wan in the lava thing is at the very beginning. Interesting.
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Posted 22 April 2005 - 08:40 AM

You say this script came out three months after Episode II? I don't think Lucas would have written Episode III's script that far in advance. I mean, he wouldn't have even begun principal photography for Episode III yet! wink.gif
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Posted 22 April 2005 - 12:07 PM

That's the reason why I think maybe he took the idea from someone else. I do wish I still had it.

It is strongly possible that all the scripts were written in their first forms, before TPM even came out. When you know what your doing in the movie industry, and know who to hire, it doesn't take long at all to come up with one. Perhaps the one I found, was what someone sent into Lucas, and he accepted it, and changed it around a bit.
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Posted 22 April 2005 - 11:35 PM

That's an interesting theory. Maybe Lucas' new movies suck so much because out of laziness, he's making each one based on the first unread agent script to come through his door.

I wish I knew what the cause of his madness was. He'd make a great subject for a pyschiatrist convention.
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Posted 22 April 2005 - 11:41 PM

And each character would be a symptom of a disease of the mind...
First chapter should go up soon - have to scan sketches up and render them on paint and pixia. Might be a bit big - highspeed connections only - I'll put a link to the screening room thread in this one - that shall be the sign.
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Posted 30 April 2005 - 08:10 AM

Clone Wars has begun for those interested.

Unfortunately their were issues with the webcomic, so it is in a written form - the very first chapter.
It sets up the backdrop, has a small space battle and lightsaber fight, introduces Anakin and Obi-Wan while letting on very little of the story to come.

As you'll see, I'm setting the screening room thread up for the actual thing, and using this thread for the discussion. Reviews, ideas, criticisms.

But the ground rules.
There is no Jar-Jar, no Qui-Gon, no Darth Maul or Count Dooku, no Queen Amidala nor Senator Padme, no Geonosians, no Nemoidians, no Gungans, no midichlorians.
Anakin is in his twenties, not nine.
Obi-Wan is of indeterminate age, but outwardly appears in his mid-thirties.

New stuff will come up soon.
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Posted 30 April 2005 - 08:58 AM

That's a really, really good start Mnesymone! thumbsup.gif Very much looking forward to more where that came from. Most of all, I like it because it's apparent that you're taking things seriously and treating the saga with respect.

Dammit if Lucas had even half the talent....
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Posted 30 April 2005 - 09:55 AM

Where's the comments thread Mnesymone? Is this it? Either way it's a good start. I can kinda see from the grand scale of things why you backed down on comicing it all, The frist part would probably take the better part of a month. A few pictures would be nice though, since you did do the work.
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Posted 30 April 2005 - 11:59 PM

Symone's first chapter is great! I urge anyone who hasn't read it, to go read it. It's an elaborate first-glance at the prequels as they should have been.
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Posted 02 May 2005 - 06:07 PM

Thanks all... new chapter will be up today or tonight.

I'll put up some of the pics sporadically - and this one is the comments thread.
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Posted 02 May 2005 - 06:15 PM

Hey Symone. Go check out my prequel fanfic. You might like it. Hopefully. And since we are on the topic: EVERYONE! LISTEN UP!
Star Wars - Episode II: The Galaxy Divided, should be up on Wednesday! Yes, I am ahead of schedule.
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