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Posted 16 April 2005 - 04:45 PM

QUOTE (ernesttomlinson @ Apr 16 2005, 04:29 PM)
Oh, yeah, Guinness is great in Doctor Zhivago, and creepy as well. 

But then your model doesn't have to be a contemporary actor.  You can go back as far as you want.  Hell, why not James Dean?  Dean Stockwell?  (A bit too odd-looking, perhaps.)  Bruce Dern?  Of course you'd need to seek out pictures of any of these actors when they were young.



Love DZ, and they show it on the big screen downtown every few years.


Careful. You're giving GL permission to replace HC in the super special CGI'd actors version of the OT and PT. innocent.gif
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Posted 17 April 2005 - 05:32 AM

Guiness's appearance in Zhivago is perfect for the third episode.

As for Anakin I was thinking mid-twenties when we meet him. I don't think James Dean is right for Anakin - but I'll check the others out. Hell, Ewan MacGregor wouldn't make a bad Anakin.

Just so you know I'm not going to separate Anakin and Vader into two separate entites.

Episode I is all mapped out in script terms - so here's a little bit to see where it's going and so I can hear your thoughts on it (Screening Room thread will probably open next weekend, depending on my workload this week and if I can scan my Dark Knight up.)

Dramatis Personae - Bail Organa, Alderaanian senator and special emissary to the border worlds of the Republic in this time of crisis.
General Obi-Wan Kenobi - Jedi Knight, advisor to Bail Organa, military attache to his ambassadorship.
Captain Anakin Skywalker - Squadron leader in the Republican Navy, his tour of duty will end after this last mission, part of the escort for the Alderaanian embassy to the border worlds.
Owen Lars - Longtime friend of Anakin and Tatooine farmer.
Beru Lars - Owen's wife.
The Unnamed Clonemaster - One of the elite Clonemasters in pursuit of power and immortality through cloning.
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Posted 19 April 2005 - 12:24 AM

just my two cents:

hows about

I Clone War
II Revenge of the Sith
III Rise of an Empire

thought I really like

I Clone War
II Fall of the Republic
III Revenge of the Sith


idunno, something about Knights of Darkness just doesn't sit right

How about

The Treachery of the Dark Side"
Dark Seduction
Power of the Dark Side
The Twin Space Stations (j/k)
Jedi's Fall

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Posted 19 April 2005 - 08:30 PM

The titles should really give some indication as to the content of the movie... The Clone Wars is about (drumroll please) the Clone Wars - the Knights of Darkness is about the battles between the Sith Knights and the Jedi taking precedence over the battles between the forces of the Republic and the Clonemasters... Not necessarily because the war is being driven by the Sith but since it is the story of the characters against the backdrop of the war, and since by Episode II I'm going to have all the main characters being Jedi or people associated with them we'll naturally see more of the lightsaber than the battles of starship and starfighter.
Incidentally, the first chapter for The Clone Wars will go up in the screening room on Sunday. (Hooray for scanners.)
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Posted 19 April 2005 - 10:56 PM

QUOTE (Mnesymone @ Apr 19 2005, 08:30 PM)
The titles should really give some indication as to the content of the movie... The Clone Wars is about (drumroll please) the Clone Wars - the Knights of Darkness is about the battles between the Sith Knights and the Jedi taking precedence over the battles between the forces of the Republic and the Clonemasters... Not necessarily because the war is being driven by the Sith but since it is the story of the characters against the backdrop of the war, and since by Episode II I'm going to have all the main characters being Jedi or people associated with them we'll naturally see more of the lightsaber than the battles of starship and starfighter.
Incidentally, the first chapter for The Clone Wars will go up in the screening room on Sunday. (Hooray for scanners.)


well, i'm excited. i just hope i end up agreeing with you more than disagreeing.

The only nit pick i have is when you talk about Sith Knights, you destroy the rule of two thing we had going. I never really had a problem with the rule of two or the idea that the force would be balanced out with two Sith (Vader and Palpatine) and two Jedi (Yoda & Ben then Yoda & Luke then Luke & Leia)

I could even be sold the idea that when Darth Bane created the rule of two. Not only was he trying to prevent another civil civil war between sith masters, but maybe he discovered that the the has an extensive quantity. The more dark side force users you have the less force per user or something. So by only having two you get more powerful........you know what...this "balance to the force" thing doesn't make sense at all. What the hell was GL thinking. I've always liked the idea of many Dark Jedi myself. Hell, before we got this PT rule of two stuff the EU had to randomly generate new dark force users as villians for the heros.

How will Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight ever be explained? lol. A whole ship of Dark Jedi just appears and there's a Jedi that excaped the purges too!
Gotta love 1997 EU.

Anyway...i don't know what to think about the whole Sith thing. I like it, but i don't at the same time.
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Posted 20 April 2005 - 02:45 AM

The rule of two is a stupid thing. There is no convincing reason for it. Also, I don't think two Sith are any cause for concern.

Try an ancient brotherhood of the Sith, an underground cult-like organisation... and you'll get something a lot more frightening and convincing.

The rule of two is just another stupid Lucas idea, in a long chain of stupid Lucas ideas. Any serious attempt at re-writing the prequels would do well to ignore anything that Lucas actually used.

Don't restrict your imagination to the limits of Lucas'. You have to adhere to what is 'fact' - the undisputable aspects of the back story that the original movies laid down. But after that, it's what you make of it.

Just to re-iterate... the rule of two is lame.
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Posted 20 April 2005 - 08:08 AM

I always wanted to see other kinds of force users too. I mean, why aren't there "neutral" force users or at least ones that are neither Jedi nor Sith? I think the galaxy far, far away might become a little more interesting and complex if force ability is not always tied to one of two orders. One which, regretably, has only two members at any given time.
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Posted 20 April 2005 - 08:10 AM

Also that 'galaxy' seems to be getting smaller and smaller the more Lucas fiddles with it.
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Posted 20 April 2005 - 11:28 AM

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Also that 'galaxy' seems to be getting smaller and smaller the more Lucas fiddles with it.


Yeah, you would think that a huge galaxy would have some people who never knew what the shit was going on all the way from the rise to the fall of the empire...
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Posted 20 April 2005 - 03:36 PM

I am deeply inspired by your quest for hunting down the errors of Lucas' prequels, and destroying his power over Star Wars! The true spirit of Star Wars has left George Lucas, and god knows what spirit replaced it!

I myself, am also going to make my own re-writes of the prequals. Though, I am deeply looking forward to your work, because it shall be interesting. At the moment, since I only have episode II of the prequals in my possession, I am going to start rewriting it's script. Yes, it is going to be in script form.

The titles are:
Star Wars I - The Clone Wars
Star Wars II- The Galaxy Divided
Star Wars III - The Rise of the Empire

Qui-Gon Jinn is going to be an non-existant character in this trilogy, and Obi-Won will have been trained by Yoda. Anakin will first be 19 at the beginning of the 1st episode.
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Posted 20 April 2005 - 03:45 PM

Cool! Welcome to the boards by the way. Feel free to post your work when you've got anything to share.
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Posted 20 April 2005 - 09:36 PM

"The titles are:
Star Wars I - The Clone Wars
Star Wars II- The Galaxy Divided
Star Wars III - The Rise of the Empire

Qui-Gon Jinn is going to be an non-existant character in this trilogy, and Obi-Won will have been trained by Yoda. Anakin will first be 19 at the beginning of the 1st episode. "

Cool - I'd like to see that... you never know, we might end up borrowing each others ideas at some points. I'll have a read of yours regardless, just to see how they do.

"The only nit pick i have is when you talk about Sith Knights, you destroy the rule of two thing we had going"

The rule of two wasn't really important - and it kind of self-contradicted... are we to assume from it that Sidious only started training Tyrannous after Maul was killed - despite the fact that Tyrannous seems to be a very powerful force-user?

Basically my Sith are predominantly made up of the Dark Knights of the Sith - fully-fledged Sith warriors, yet not sufficiently experienced or powerful to teach others, with a number of apprentices learning from the various masters - the fairly powerful masters I'm taking to referring to as Prelates, and the leader of the Sith Order, the Dark Lord of the Sith (Who is not Palpatine by the way) - A bit of a spoiler here, if Yoda - being small and logically shorter-lived than humans, lasted 900 years with the aid of the force, the Dark Lord of the Sith. being human, would actually be the sole survivor of the Sith War two thousand years before the events of the Clone Wars.

HK-47: As for the idea of other kind of force users, I liked the idea of the witches of Dathomir and the force monks from some of the Zahn books - but basically I'm saying for this that either the Jedi and Sith are the only ones relevant to the story - any neutral force-users, which I'm not saying don't exist, would not have an impact upon the story so we won't meet them.
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Posted 21 April 2005 - 07:07 AM

Just a couple of things, Mnesymone:

It's Obi-Wan,not Obi-Won.

Also, Palpatine and the Dark Lord aren't the same person? But we know the Emperor's name in the OT is Palpatine. So how is that going to work?
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The sandpeople had women and children. We know this because Anakin killed them how could he tell? The children might be smaller but I never saw a sandperson with breasts. Did they hike their skirts and show him some leg or something?

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Also, I can see the point of wanting to kidnap a human and use her as a slave, but they didn't. They tied her to a flimsy easel for a month. It's assumed they had to feed and give her water. What for? Was she purely ornamental? I can understand them wanting the droids, you can sell those for a lot of money, but a chick who's only skills are finding non-existand mushrooms and getting randomly pregnant, you're not going to get much.

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 08:19 AM

Thank you HK 47. Thank you Symone.

Perfect~! At the contemporary moment, I am still working on the outline, taking out a few bugs and adding some new things. Putting old slants on new things, and new slants on old things, and so on and so forth. Took me 4 hours to make the rough -draft outline last night. FOUR HOURS! But I'm not complaining. It was great, especially having inspiration directly from the OT while watching it. (Yes, and I have the special edition, so shoot me. sleep.gif Old ones are so hard to get ahold of... so hard.)

Anakin's lover, will be named Nera. She will be a student in politics under Senator Palpatine, who is the Senator of Alderan at that time. Her best friend and colleague in the studying of politics, is Bail Organa, who of course steps up as Senator after Nera dies from giving childbirth to Luke and Leigha.

See, this is the way it works. After Palpatine is done teaching Nera of the political matters of the galaxy, he fakes his own death, and Nera steps up as Senator, RIGHT when half the planets from the Galactic Senate resign and join the seperatists. So, Nera has alot of stuff on her hands, and she is pretty wet behind the ears, which throws the Republic into even more turmoil. During her political studies, in the Alderan Academy for New Scholars, she has a fellow student who worked alongside her, who also seemingly 'died' right before Senator Palpatine died. Later, we find out that her fellow student, is really Darth Srane, the apprentice who reveals to Obi-Wan and Anakin that the Sith are back.

Btw: MY reason for Anakin turning to the darkside in the end, is much more believable. If I may say so myself. Can't wait to be done with this to show you all. Thanks, I'm sure I'll have a great time in these forums.
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Posted 21 April 2005 - 09:40 AM

Nice work. And welcome to the boards.

I also like your name for Anakin's lover. Nera is nice.

Just a little concern though - scripts aren't the easiest thing to read so I was wondering if you'd thought about writing a treatment instead?
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