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#46 User is offline   Helena Icon

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Posted 15 April 2005 - 08:13 AM

Same here. I don't think he's all that well-known outside of the US.
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The sandpeople had women and children. We know this because Anakin killed them how could he tell? The children might be smaller but I never saw a sandperson with breasts. Did they hike their skirts and show him some leg or something?

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Also, I can see the point of wanting to kidnap a human and use her as a slave, but they didn't. They tied her to a flimsy easel for a month. It's assumed they had to feed and give her water. What for? Was she purely ornamental? I can understand them wanting the droids, you can sell those for a lot of money, but a chick who's only skills are finding non-existand mushrooms and getting randomly pregnant, you're not going to get much.

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Posted 22 April 2005 - 12:22 PM

QUOTE (Xombie @ Apr 12 2005, 04:04 AM)
Darth Sidetheactorsstudio


I'm only seeing this ten days later but this one gave me quite a laugh when I finally saw it. laugh.gif

Darth A-Gadda-Da-Vida
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Posted 22 April 2005 - 05:05 PM

We now have more Sith Lord names that do not fit the "omitted in" pattern than those that do.

The "In" column:

Darth Vader
Darth Sidious

The "Not In" column:

Darth Maul
Darth Tyrannus
Darth Plagueis (I still feel dumb typing that)

Most of the stuff from supporting material does not follow the "in" pattern either. Darth Bane, Darth Malak, Darth Revan, Darth Sion, Darth Nihilus, etc.

Can we drive a stake through the heart of the whole "Darth=In" thing now, please?

Even though it would deprive us of the possibility of "Darth Victus"?
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Posted 22 April 2005 - 05:26 PM

How about Darth Sadist?
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Posted 22 April 2005 - 07:04 PM

Vader is obviously cognate with "father" and my guess is that "Sidious" is meant to suggest "hideous". It's dumb either way.
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Posted 22 April 2005 - 11:45 PM

Darth Vader wasn't Darth (In)Vader - he was Dark Father in Dutch.
Darth Sidious - insidious, hideous.
Maul - mauled, mangled, crushed, destroyed.

Tyrannous - fairly obvious there - also lame. Why not go the whole hog and get his apprentices to be Darth Saurus and Darth Rex?

The whole Darth as a title thing is lame. I'm not going to use it.
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Posted 23 April 2005 - 04:03 PM

QUOTE (Mnesymone @ Apr 22 2005, 11:45 PM)
Darth Vader wasn't Darth (In)Vader - he was Dark Father in Dutch.
Darth Sidious - insidious, hideous.
Maul - mauled, mangled, crushed, destroyed.

Tyrannous - fairly obvious there - also lame. Why not go the whole hog and get his apprentices to be Darth Saurus and Darth Rex?

The whole Darth as a title thing is lame. I'm not going to use it.



when you do omit it though, you Make things like KOTOR un-canon. And fans won't like that. Plus, in your rewrites take, even though it will be better than GL's ... you have to remember that fans to a certain degree have PT "dogma" already ingrained in their minds whether they like it or not.

I suggest you skirt around the Darth issue by avoiding it altogether. For example, Vader's master was always "Palpatine" or "The Emperor" never "Darth Sidious." We also hear "Vader" and "Lord Vader" many more times than "Darth Vader." If you always refer to your villians as "Lord" instead of "Darth" you can keep both "Darth-Basher" and "Darth-gusher" camps happy and get a better response to your script.
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Posted 23 April 2005 - 06:02 PM

The idea of taking negative words and using them as Sith Titles is not a bad move at all.
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Posted 23 April 2005 - 08:46 PM

It's a good solution. But for the record, the idea of calling everyone Darth was a stupid stupid idea.

I remember before I saw EPISODE I, there were two distinct things that I had heard about the film that pissed me off to no end.

1. Anakin was a little boy. This had me asking all the obvious questions, such as "Why? Why? When will he grow up? How long will we see him as a little boy? He won't be a little boy for the entire film, will he? Will he? Please tell me this is a joke."


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2. Everyone being called Darth something. Darth Vader was a unique name. If you look at the original credits, he was called Lord Darth Vader. The prequels however become tiresome with Darth this, Darth that and Darth Tom, Dick and Harry. It's silly beyond belief.


I'm sorry that Knights of the Old Republic adopted the shitty terminology but they SHOULDN'T HAVE. For me, one of the major reasons why I don't want to play that game, despite the fact that all of you seem to worship it, is that it is tainted by the prequels.


However, Just Another Wretched Fan, your solution to keep both parties happy is a good one.

Personally, I wouldn't worry about making everyone happy. I'd worry about making a good story that is consistent with the original movies and making fans of the original films happy. Hopefully people who picked up on some of the rubbish from the new films, whether directly or through video games, would still be able to enjoy it as well. But if you have to choose between contradicting the original STAR WARS or Knights of the Old Republic, it's a no-brainer.
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 12:15 AM

JYAMG, I'll obviously give you your final point. I just want to say that if you do something unexpected with the naming convention, you might turn heads in the wrong direction.

I do need to add though, that my whole point is irrelevant considering that I haven't heard what the alternatives might sound like and whether or not they themselve are better or worse than Darth Something.

I think that anybody will agree that coming up with a good solid name for a character is one of the hardest things to do. I wonder how many times someone read the script for ESB and said "'Calrissian?' ...sounds like an entree at an Italian restauraunt.?"

This post has been edited by Just another wretched fan: 24 April 2005 - 12:15 AM

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 12:50 AM

It rolls off the tongue nicely though.

"Cal... riss... ian..."


Mon Calamari, Ackbar's people however.... makes you look at the menu and ask the waiter "So what exactly is the difference between Mon Calamari and normal calamari."
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 12:56 AM

Subtract "mon" from "Normal," and you get "Lar," as in
"Oh when" will that waiter be back with our Calamari?
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 05:58 AM

Mon Calamari - tasty tasty mon calamari rings... ohh they're a race of shipbuilding salmon... curses.

JAWF - I'm not going to use Darth explicitly except for Darth Vader, in fact, I'll make minimal use of names for the Sith Knights - The only scenes where someone who might know the name of a Sith character are once exclusively with Sith characters in them, and given their hierarchy - the Dark Lord of the Sith and the Prelates don't need to use any name or formality when addressing the Knights, and the Knights will just use the titles "My Lord" "My Master" - if you want to assume there's a Darth in there that option is open to you.

As for KOTOR - I never played it, so I don't know any of the stuff in it. As for using something other than the original trilogy as canon - sorry...
If its not given in or intuitive from the Star Wars trilogy it doesn't get in.
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 03:28 PM

Apropos of nothing, I spent two weeks in Italy in the summer of 1999 touring all of the ancient ruins roundabout the Bay of Naples, drinking lots of red wine, and slopping up delicious Neapolitan cooking. The only thing I tried that I didn't like, the *only* thing, was calamari. It was too much like chewing on rubber bands. I've been told that maybe it wasn't prepared well.
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Posted 25 April 2005 - 08:23 PM

Darth Wampyr?

Darth I nearly bought one.
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