[Hannibal]

Its about the value of human life dummie. Selling arms and legs? Its fucking sick. People will buy cheap "parts" ripped off real human people on the black market. It shouldn't be done ever. Lose your leg, tough stumpie, lose your liver, tough. Thats how life works, you then will VALUE your liver, your legs, your eyes, as well as your neighbors, otherwise, anything goes, the value of human life goes down<NOT UP. Poor people still get shafted, and the rich can live like COMPLETE FUCKING ASSHOLES EVEN LONGER and never have to worry about any possible physical consequences of their behavior. Fuck anyone who wants spare parts. It means they don't value their own organs, or their own life, nor anyone else's, life becomes a physical free-for all(so long as you got the cash).

no we don't need this at all. I hope ewan loses his balls over this, only to find out he's short a few hundred thou.

[Despondent]

A human hand, skin, tits, ass, eyeballs, human life parts are not to be manufactured, bought, sold, used as tools. Period.

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I'll read fifty posts like that one before slaving through through the presented argument. At least. Thank you.

No, really. Thanks.




Doctors' hands are used as tools

[use the force]

Ok hannibal, so if the you somehow got your dick and balls chopped off and doctors gave you a chance to grow a new one from your original cells you would say no? Or if someone close to you needed a heart transplant and there wasnt one available for a couple years you would just let them die? uhhh sorry we cant grow you another heart out of your own cells because it degrades the value of human life. no it doesnt it fuckin saves lives.

[Hannibal]

When the day comes when rich fuckers buy and sell human parts, and poor people are getting jacked in the streets for their eyeballs or their kidneys, i will personally go out and have my own CLONE WAR. I will go out in the street with a machete and start hacking up rich people. Technically according to you freaks, its no big prob. You can just go out and get some fresh parts.

Life value? Ain't one right? You'll live if you got the cash right? So tough.

This post has been edited by Hannibal: 17 March 2005 - 11:13 PM

[Hannibal]

"Ok hannibal, so if the you somehow got your dick and balls chopped off and doctors gave you a chance to grow a new one from your original cells you would say no? Or if someone close to you needed a heart transplant and there wasnt one available for a couple years you would just let them die? "

Thats what happens now fuck head. You live to preserve your precious life. You fight the bastards tooth and nail to keep your balls. If I get my balls cut off, thats it baby, thats reality. Your sci-fi unreality and bullshit hypothetical crap doesn't change it. Reality: Hey Hannibal, we can grow you new balls.

Hannibal: Really?

Doctor: Yeah, it will cost you an arm and a leg...

You can't win your argument because its all RATIONALIZATION.

This post has been edited by Hannibal: 17 March 2005 - 11:17 PM

[Despondent]

Hey Hannibal, we can grow you new balls.

Hannibal: Really?

Doctor: Yeah, it will cost you an arm and a leg...

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(rimshot.)

fight the bastards tooth and nail to keep your balls.

(cowbell)

fuck head

Actually, I thought the first part sounded like Barend's material.

[use the force]

hannibal cusing people out thirteen year old kids on the internet does not make you a bad ass. im sure in your little sick mind people would go around hacking body parts off for money, but thats just you. people wont be able to just walk into a pawn shop with arms n shit and be able to sell them. there would be a system set up where they would only replace a missing organ/bodypart from cells of your own body. who the fuck would want someones nasty ass leg off the street when they can get their own leg replaced identical to their last one.

[Hannibal]

Cloning for parts is vampirism.

You wanna live forever? Yeah, you can be a vampire...

Don't worry, I'll value my own life long enough to drive a stake through your heart.

The vampire metaphor's time has finally come.

Dracula was not a story about the past but the future.

[use the force]

if i was a vampire i would bite you

[Hannibal]

YOU ARE LIVING IN A DREAMWORLD "usetheforce":

http://news.national...gantraffic.html

Organ Shortage Fuels Illicit Trade in Human Parts
Brian Handwerk
for National Geographic Ultimate Explorer
January 16, 2004


Last month (December 2003), police in South Africa and in Brazil broke up an international ring trafficking in human kidneys. The racket also involved people in Israel—and possibly even further afield.

Brazilian police reported that dozens of willing donors were flown from that nation's destitute neighborhoods to South Africa where transplant surgery was performed on patients, including some from Israel. Recipients may have paid as much as U.S. $100,000 for their ill-gotten organs. Donors received a fraction of that amount, but a substantial sum nonetheless to those in desperate straits.

Though this ring is now out of business, the operation was far from unique. National Geographic Ultimate Explorer host Lisa Ling recently traveled to India to investigate reports of a widespread trade in organs illegally harvested from that nation's poor.

Kidney Village

Ling visited a desperate neighborhood known locally as "kidney village" because so many of its residents had illegally sold one of their kidneys. The practice is underground, but widespread enough that finding many donors was not a problem for the Ultimate Explorer team.

"They said that they received about $800 a kidney, which for them is a year's salary," Ling told National Geographic News. "It's a decent amount of money to them, but of course when it runs out they can't sell more organs."


Yet such proposals have found little popular acceptance in medical and bioethics circles, where most fear the exploitation of the poor and foresee the first steps on a slippery slope that leads to a dehumanizing trade in bodies and body parts. "I don't think that I've ever seen anyone speak representing an organization that would support such a system," Paschke said.

This post has been edited by Hannibal: 17 March 2005 - 11:54 PM

[use the force]

you see, this would never happen if people could clone their own kidneys.

[Hannibal]

You are living in a dreamworld: Cloned kidneys cost money. The people ARE SELLING THEIR FUCKING KIDNEYS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO MONEY, OTHERS WILL STEAL KIDNEYS TO MAKE MONEY. THESE PEOPLE WON'T GET TO HAVE CLONED KIDNEYS. CLONED KIDNEYS WILL HAVE TO COME FROM HUMAN BEINGS, A "CLONE" IS A HUMAN BEING. HEADLESS, OR NOT. ITS NOT "YOUR KIDNEY" ITS YOUR CLONE'S KIDNEY. YOU ARE COMPLETELY LIVING IN A FANTASY WORLD, just as ALL those who think(like Obiwanker)that its "a good idea."

We live in a dark and shitty world. Not a new age utopia of peace. Your foolish ideas about "giving cloned parts" to the world are idiotic. Thieves and bad guys are everywhere, and it is INEVITABLE that this 'cloning' will be abused.

Otherwise, we should give Iran a nuclear power plant because they need electricity. If they happen to use it for nuclear weapons, hey thats not our fault...we live in a utopia...

Now, being you say your only 13, its understandable, you haven't THE FAINTEST idea what "RESPONSIBILITY" means.

This post has been edited by Hannibal: 18 March 2005 - 12:09 AM

[Despondent]

Can we tie this to Star Wars somehow?

[use the force]

hannibal im not saying to clone clones of yourself to keep in a fridge for back up limbs. what i mean is having the scientists take part of you cell tissue and grow another arm or leg out of that. ya know like a crab or something. now, why would that make a bunch of people start hacking poor people to death for their limbs again?

[Hannibal]

...It seems that Obi-Wan is the victor of this encounter, and the information he gleans from Utapau brings the Jedi Council to the realization that Palpatine is playing both sides of the war. Palpatine's dark plans for eternal life – via cloning technology and other dark arts – are also revealed around this time in the movie.

The EVIL Emperor is obsessed with using cloning technology to prolong his worthless life. Go against that use_the_farts. Come now, don't you belive in George Lucas? Even he thinks cloning is bad...