[The Other]

I'm wondering about this because in the novel Obi-wan tells Luke that "when your father left he didn't know you mother was pregnant." However in ANH when Obi-wan gives Luke the lightsaber he says "your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough." This seems to indicate that Anakin did know about the pregnancy. So did he or didn't he?

[CowboyCurtis]

Movies have more relevance than the novelisation, because the novelisation also says that Owen Lars is Kenobi's half-brother.

[Helena]

Also, remember that Obi-Wan was feeding Luke a line about his father - he may well have made up the thing about him wanting Luke to have his lightsaber. For that matter, it now appears that he made up all that stuff about Anakin being a 'cunning warrior' and a 'good friend' as well...

[Despondent]

[HK 47]

Aw, come on guys, it's all "from a certain point of view". Damn bashers...

[Paladin]

Also, remember that Obi-Wan was feeding Luke a line about his father - he may well have made up the thing about him wanting Luke to have his lightsaber. For that matter, it now appears that he made up all that stuff about Anakin being a 'cunning warrior' and a 'good friend' as well...

Not only did Lucas completely fail at making Anakin a 'cunning warrior' a 'good friend' and 'the greatest star pilot in the galaxy', but he also destroyed the idea that Jedi were really cool warriors and super scholars and stuff. Back in the old days, I couldn't think of anything in movie history that could be cooler than the Jedi. The movies made Jedi look like a bunch of incompitent idiots and worthless morons. All the coolness that they had, all the greatness, the mystic, the mystery and all the stuff that made them so great were destroyed. Instead of the same mystical warriors that we had in the OT, we get a complete asshole of an apprentice, a bunch of old men who do nothing but walk around and make 'wise' statements and just look concerned, and a master who's incapable of taking rein over his psychotic apprentice, and an evil sithlord who behaves exactly like a villain from Thundercats, G.I. Joe or some other saturday morning cartoon!

This post has been edited by Paladin: 04 March 2005 - 10:34 AM

[Helena]

And he's ruined Obi-Wan's character as well. Originally he came across as a kindly but conflicted old man, loyal to his old friend, but wanting to shield Luke from a truth he believed would be too painful for the boy to handle. Now it appears that he was either senile or simply lying through his teeth. And if it was his training that turned TPM Anakin into AotC Anakin, my advice to Luke would be: run like hell...

[Despondent]

Well, don't forget gentle meek and lovable Artoo.



WHO CAN FLY!

[CowboyCurtis]

And remember in ROTJ Obi-Wan called Anakin, "the good man who was your father..." not "the good boy who was your father..."

Yeah, we Bashers are really a fly in the ointment.


We need to get that "Plot Inconsistencies" sticky up.

[Despondent]

If they didn't listen to Chefelf and the prophets, they ain't gonna heed any list-
no matter how valid.

[The Other]

Also, remember that Obi-Wan was feeding Luke a line about his father - he may well have made up the thing about him wanting Luke to have his lightsaber. For that matter, it now appears that he made up all that stuff about Anakin being a 'cunning warrior' and a 'good friend' as well...

*makes note* It is okay to disregard anything Obi-wan says in the OT because the PT has made it perfectly clear that he lied to Luke about absolutely everything involving himself, Anakin, Yoda, the droids etc.

I ask this stuff not just because it bugs me that I can't figure it out, but also because I like many people on this board plan to write my own version of the prequels. And I certainly want to avoid having any glaring inconsistencies unlike someone else we all know and loath.

[Just another wretched fan]

*makes note*  It is okay to disregard anything Obi-wan says in the OT because the PT has made it perfectly clear that he lied to Luke about absolutely everything involving himself, Anakin, Yoda, the droids etc.

I ask this stuff not just because it bugs me that I can't figure it out, but also because I like many people on this board plan to write my own version of the prequels.  And I certainly want to avoid having any glaring inconsistencies unlike someone else we all know and loath.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What do you mean? I'd say if you're making a rewrite you can do whatever you want including make Obi-Wan and Yoda liars, but if you do, please make it happen in a much better fashion than GL.

Make the fans react more like "HOLY SHIT OBI-WAN lied, what a plot twist" as opposed to "dammit GL why did you trash your own plot consistency for the worse"