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Posted 19 February 2005 - 07:41 AM

"That way, the clever kids with a genuine curiosity of the world can be free to pursue their own interests in the intellectual section, gathering only the information that is immediately necessary."

Which is pretty much a description of a university! Sure, you have to get in based on previous qualifications, but that's just a guarantee that you won't need to spend endless hours teaching the basics before getting onto what you're really there for.

And believe it or not, A-levels take exams somewhat beyond parroting of trivia -- a genuine understanding of what you're talking about is handy. GCSEs are just a hurdle to eliminate the violent awesomedomers to which you refer.
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Posted 19 February 2005 - 09:59 AM

Excellent article Yahtzee. I feel much the same way about having to go to school.
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Posted 19 February 2005 - 10:53 AM

Excellent, indeed. But I'm a little bit worried, though... "Mein Hut hat drei Ecke" - that phrase caught my attention. And apart from a missing "n" in "Ecke", there's something that makes me wonder...
"Mein Hut hat drei Ecken" somehow reminds me of a stupid little song, which is often used by teachers to inflict an enormous mental damage in the minds of their pupils. Well, I don't know how Yahtzee got to know this psychological weapon, but if it really was because of this song, then I can understand his disaproval of education.
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Posted 19 February 2005 - 11:22 AM

It caught your attention because it's German, and the rest of the article is English. What does it mean though?
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Posted 19 February 2005 - 11:25 AM

I was just wondering whether his German lessons were the cause for all this.
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Posted 19 February 2005 - 12:22 PM

I knew it! I fucking KNEW it!

I just filled out my application for the sixth form a few days ago...

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Posted 19 February 2005 - 02:29 PM

Meh, I've only been a freshmen at high shcool. But, I doo si how they teach joo tings not nesisary, it sorta depends on what chu lookin fo in a fuchur carere, obviously i'm not looking to be an english teacher (one of the few jobs that NEEDs to have an english degree). laugh.gif

I'm being guilted into being a rich accountant type accountant person, so some of the business classes are accualy teaching me something. But I agree, having the half dome thing would not only build a good cultural/scientifical base geek.gif , but also build a great military recruitment farm of strong bloodthirsty psycos. pirate.gif
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Posted 19 February 2005 - 06:51 PM

Heh, I only went to university to get drunk and have lots of weed/sex. The learning of things is merely an unfortunate side effect that takes up 5-6 hours a week.

In the same vein, I only went to sixth form to a.) achieve the latter b.) get into the pants of this girl I fancied throughout the process. Ironically enough, I did, but to my... but this is irrelevant.

By and large, education as it is sucks. You learn nothing you need to know in Maths beyon about... ooh, shall we say Year Nine? Who really needs to know how to differentiate an algebraic formula, save a professional mathmatician? What does a professional mathmatician do, anyway? Why am I coming up with clever stuff like this here, rather than updating my own website? Why? Why? WHY?

Incidently, I never learned how to do HTML in school, and its been more bloody useful for me than finding out how Bosola develops as a character in "The Duchess of Malfi". Hey, Yahtzee's right again! DAMNIT MAN! STOPPIT!

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Posted 19 February 2005 - 07:53 PM

While middle and high school were indeed a pointless, hellish waste of time, which only provided me with years of emotional scarring, I just have to say that college is actually pretty damn cool. Not only is it more liberal in methods and material, but the times are much easier to live with, and it is significantly harder to come across people whose sole reason for existence is to endlessly torment you and make your life hell.

At least, that's how it's been for me...

NOTE: I have no idea what sixth form is.

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Posted 19 February 2005 - 08:29 PM

From what I've gathered of your outlandish American education system, its the two years befoer you go to college/university/whatever.
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Posted 19 February 2005 - 08:39 PM

I have found some classes to be really useless and uninteresting (I'm not going to name names, in order to protect the identity of the Economics). And thinking "I will never need to know this again outside of this class" doesn't do much for motivation. Other classes can be quite interesting though, and I have found more of this kind of polarization (really interesting classes vs. waste-of-time classes) this year more than any other. Middle school was just pointless though, I think its only purpose was to have somewhere to put us until we mostly outgrew our adolescent asininity. (not like that always works anyway)

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Posted 20 February 2005 - 12:21 AM

I don't think the dome would work for me. I need deadlines and pressure, otherwise I just don't get any work done. I'm too skilled at procrastination.

I found school got a lot better in years 11 and 12. Seeing as it was now optional, all the dickheads left and the teachers got a lot more relaxed. Uni is even more relaxed, to the point that I tend to forget about my assignments. Oh, and Chyld, differentiation is used all the time in the physical sciences. Hell, I find that if I don't know what to do in a physics question, just differentiate it for some marks. It's probably what you were supposed to do anyway.
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Posted 20 February 2005 - 01:46 PM

As brilliant as the side with all the books, games, and other fun stuff is...doesn't anyone else feel like there would still be some days where you just want to go play with the sharp stuff and see what you could cut up with it? Maybe break some of that stupid sports equipment? The only real problem is that Id be done with that kind of stuff in about twenty minutes, then Id start begging to be allowed over to the other half...

Maybe it's just me, or the fact that I was a bit destructive every now and then when I was little...
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Posted 20 February 2005 - 07:39 PM

The other concern would be the kids who mostly want to be on the stabbity side but one day decide to try out the learning side, getting bored after about twenty minutes, and stabbing people with the pencils and paintbrushes.

Also, upon further thought, the most significant thing I have gotten out of my education so far is the ability to BS my way through projects and assignments, doing just enough to get by with a decent grade without putting any kind of real thought or effort into it. I only hope that I can unlearn that which has been ingrained in me for many years dry.gif
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Posted 20 February 2005 - 07:45 PM

That's more than I can do. I'm completely incapable of bullshiting my way through things, that's why I'm always missing a bunch of assignments in the end.
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