[Xombie]

Well, of course it will suck.

But it will suck because Lucas is doing it, not because it has 12 minutes of choreography in it.

There are no bad ideas only bad executions of ideas. (okay, I just threw that out, don't hold me to that literally). As I pointed out on another thread here just the other day: the dialogueless waiting-on-a-train scene in Once Upon a Time In the West runs to ten minutes. I'm sure many of Jackie Chan's superior movie-climax fights extend to ten to twelve minutes. The staredown alone in The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly clocks in at five minutes. Hell, the chase scene in the original Gone In 60 Seconds takes up half the movie. It's not the minutes, it's what they do with them.

If the choreography is top-notch, that twelve minutes will feel like two and you'll be wanting more.

But, if its like every other dull fight in a Star Wars film it won't be.

[Chefelf]

Chef, can you tell me how the 'extended' pod race was like? I really want to know, thanks.

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Exceptionally boring. Lots of pre-race footage, getting ready for the race, etc. Then the race was just really long. He did the right thing by editing it but he should have edited it further by removing the whole scene from the movie all together.

[Paladin]

Just as I suspected... a whole waste of time! :shrug:

Thanks for the info, Chef.

[littlejerryseinfeld]

chef - why don't they just do a 12-min cut scene of george lucas masturbating furiously while he watches the duel in his private screening room?

maybe rick mccallum could be standing by with a bottle of vaseline... nodding in approval.

[Mike Mac from NYU]

Talk about a 12 minute uncut duel has been talked about for over a year, encouraged by the lightsaber fight choreographer Nick Gillard.


Actually I think if you take the amount of screen time of the Empire Strikes Back duel it comes to exactly the same time. I think...

But it went by fast because we cared about Luke's fate. He was a vengeful youth that was overmatched against an experienced Sith Lord who was trying to corrupt him. We wondered if he would survive.

In ROTS, we basically have a whiny, blonde, evil little bitch that we could care less about confront this boring, oblivious middle aged fool trying to due a bad Alec Guiness impression.

Yeah, I'll have loads of interest in that duel. Those 12 minutes will seem like 12 days.

[Helena]

Talk about a 12 minute uncut duel has been talked about for over a year, encouraged by the lightsaber fight choreographer Nick Gillard.
Actually  I think if you take the amount of screen time of the Empire Strikes Back duel it comes to exactly the same time.  I think...

Well, I can't be sure without actually watching the duel and timing it, but it seems unlikely. Twelve minutes is a long time. Regardless, the duel in ESB was interspersed with other scenes, which would have the effect of reducing monotony - a twelve-minute uncut duel would be something very different. As you said, it'll probably feel more like 12 days.

[Garth Vader]

There will be a lot of talking in this duel, not just slashing and parrying for 12 straight mins. Trust me you will be blown away by how epic this will be.I've seen a lot of pics of this and there is more emotion in this one than all the other duels combined. It will be gritty and they actually fight with other things besides lightsabers at times.

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that would be right except no one really cares enough about the chartacters in the forst two prequels and i'd imagine this one as well for it to be a great fight.

[Despondent]

Just on a lark, if it is all twelve minutes of a duel, they could play it out.

they extended the crack of doom scene for ROTK, didn't they? How long is That scene?


And using the pod-race as an example, whatever happens duel wise: they could repeat it twice.