[Madam Corvax]

Well, I do find Swastika and Nazis uniforms offensive. It is just as somebody mentioned earlier, there are still people who remember the atrocities and may feel offended by feeling their sufferings is a subject of cheap mockery.

Well, some symbols are making feeling people this way. We had a case in Poland of one artist, who used in her crappy video installation a symbol of cross with a photography of male genitalia pinned to it and a video of a man working out in a gym. Some Catholic fundamentalist sued her and she was actually tried and sentenced for mockery of religious symbol.

And there was a big scandal when some clothes designer showed clothes made from fabric on which the patter was excerpts from Coran (the Muslim's holy book, I might get the spelling wrong). Some people were very upset and he apologised a lot.

So the sybols are pretty sensitive issue, best avoided by people who represent countries.

[barend]

the insensitivity angle is an obvious one, but it begs to clarify my earlier point...

how come no one found 'Hogans Heroes' offensive?
it was only 20 years later, and they portrayed the nazis as a bumbling bunch of loveable half-wits...

more importantly... he was dressing up as a bad guy. bad guy's are offensive... i don't think it's to PC to be a little shocked by it, but it is less than reasonable to assume affiliation on the basis of a costume warn at costume party...

especially when John Wayne remained a hero after saying: "indians were just being greedy" in reference to the colonisation of america.

[Madam Corvax]

Didn't see that specific film you mentioned Barend.

But I do not think westerns (because it sounds like a western) from the 60 were much in terms of political correctness. It was an era when it was still ok to portray Indians and stupid dirty vermin that needed to be eliminated or civilised, which in the end amounted to the same.

I saw one westers some six months ago and I was SHOCKED by the portrayal of Indians. There was this girl who was Indian but was rised by white farmers and didn't know about it. And then her brother comes to claim her as Indian and in the end she SHOTS him, which was shown as a triumph of civilisation over barbarism. I was sick when I saw it.

[Slade]

I'd be sick too. It's a horrible abuse of theme and culturally insensitive too.

Edit: It's great to see you back on the forums, Ms. Corvax!

This post has been edited by Slade: 25 January 2005 - 01:30 PM

[Madam Corvax]

Well, thank you Slade . Now the workload abated a littel at work, I'll be more frequent here.

[barend]

john wayne didn't say it in a movie...

he said it in an interview.

[rock_dash]

It is ok to dress up as a member of the Spanish Inquisition.

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No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!

[barend]

that was so nerdy, it was cool...

I heart you.

[Dr Lecter]

If displaying the nazi symbol illegal in Germany because the Nazis commited mass genocide in Germany... Why isn't the American army symbol illegal in Iraq?

I agree with Icey, the Nazi uniform are pretty stylish, its understand why people became Nazis, and why people feared them when they were wearing such freaken cool uniforms

This post has been edited by Dr Lecter: 04 February 2005 - 11:32 AM

[Slade]

Because the appearance of someone is so strongly related to how much people will like them?

[xmradiodave]

If displaying the nazi symbol illegal in Germany because the Nazis commited mass genocide in Germany... Why isn't the American army symbol illegal in Iraq?

I agree with Icey, the Nazi uniform are pretty stylish, its understand why people became Nazis, and why people feared them when they were wearing such freaken cool uniforms

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Are you saying that the American military is comitting genocide? That is the most absurd statement I have heard today.

I believe that the young Prince Harry made a bad decision. I do not however think he is pro Nazi. He may be in need of some education on the atrocities the Nazi party participated in. I think that he deserves to be made an example of. But I do not think that he is in any way a Nazi. A bit misguided and foolish but certainly not a Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer.

This post has been edited by xmradiodave: 05 February 2005 - 03:42 AM

[Hannibal]

'He may be in need of some education on the atrocities the Nazi party participated in.'



Yeah, he isn't the only one.

Would you like a lesson? Everyone else here has had one, but for you, newbie, I'll cook up something special...

[Slade]

I can't decide if I want to laugh or take that as a threat, Hannibal :-P

I'll be damned for saying this, but lay it on him. Just not too hard, and obviously without spouting off insults directed at him and such.

[use the force]

Well you will probabley hear something that ties the Nazi's in with star wars and makes the jedi knights seem like racists.

BTW slade who is that guy in your avatar?

This post has been edited by use the force: 06 February 2005 - 10:36 AM

[Dr Lecter]

Theres no theory that I have heard of that connects star wars to nazism. The Ku Klux Klan however... Now theres a different story