[not this crude matter]

Many controversies suround this man. His opponents hate him and his ally's love him. He has liberated over 50 million people in Afghanistan and Iraq. While others would say he has oppressed these people. What do you think about him? Come, lets have a logical debate about this with now flaming.

[SimeSublime]

To be honest, I didn't think anybody here supported him. So if you want to start a debate, feel free to stick up for him, whether you agree, or are just playing devils advocate.

[J m HofMarN]

Sime- Yeah, not even Hannibal or use the force.

I myself believe he's somewhere between Hitler and Mr Magoo. He claims he dosnt know anything about (insert any of the war crimes comitted here) but he also says that we dont need to abide by the Geneva conventions or the UN charter or, well, anything. He's either a very dumb person playing for some smart people behind the scenes or a very smart person playing dumb.

[not this crude matter]

Geez no one hear voted for him? You all must be foreign

[Slade]

First of all, only 49% of the US population voted for Dubyah.

Second, we've been having this sort of debate all across the debate forums.

Thirdly, of course his allys love him. If I were a rich oil baron bent on gaining as much control over the people as possible, I'd love him too.

Or rather, the son of a rich oil baron. All Dubyah did was party at Yale and then run every company he was given afterward into the ground. It explains alot, really.

[not this crude matter]

First of all, only 49% of the US population voted for Dubyah.

Second, we've been having this sort of debate all across the debate forums.

Thirdly, of course his allys love him. If I were a rich oil baron bent on gaining as much control over the people as possible, I'd love him too.

Or rather, the son of a rich oil baron. All Dubyah did was party at Yale and then run every company he was given afterward into the ground. It explains alot, really.

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First of all 51% of the US population voted for him. And yes, we are all being controlled by rich oil barons . I tell ya Dubya has been planning this vast right wing conspiracy to take over the worlds oil supplies for years.

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[Kirby]

No, it was 49% bush, 49% kerry, and 1% Nader. Ahh the joys of the electoral system, 8 people in a houce, you win the election with 3 votes because they were standing in the kitchen.

[Slade]

Oh, I don't think it's possible to find any politician who's a saint anyway...

Isn't the two party system so much fun?!

[not this crude matter]

If it was 49%, and I highly doubt it was. Then how did Bush win by more than half of all the votes. That was the first time something happened like that since the sixties or something.

[Slade]

Research the electoral system, dude.

[Kirby]

NTCM: Yes, bush won the Popular Vote. You have to remember that 1% of all total voters is an ass load of people.
And Slade is right about politicians, you can't say saint or sinner. I move to change this thread's name to Dubya: Sinner or Run of the Mill Politician.

[Dr Lecter]

if bush goes to heaven i would hate to know who in hell... just hitler?

[Slade]

Well, there's Saddam Hussein, and Ghandi, and Satan, of course. Also most of the Baldwins...

Kirby - Since I'm the mod, motion passed! Absolute power! Muahahaha!

Nah, I can't do that, unless NTCM doesn't mind.

[Dr Lecter]

Well, there's Saddam Hussein, and Ghandi, and Satan, of course. Also most of the Baldwins...

Kirby - Since I'm the mod, motion passed! Absolute power! Muahahaha!

Nah, I can't do that, unless NTCM doesn't mind.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

why the hell would ghandi go to hell?

[Slade]

Haven't you seen the South Park movie? He's not Christian, and therefore goes to hell with all of the non-believers. It was a joke... I thought throwing the Baldwins in there would spark a few synapses at least.