[CowboyCurtis]

I'm just kicking around some ideas for my re-writes, and one of things I had thought of was... well, first off, in my re-writes, the Mandalores invade Alderaan (not Naboo), and they use the same battledroids as the Neimodians did, but I was thinking... would it be too coincidental that the Mandalores used IG-88's (or perhaps even an early variant of one) for the battles?

Would that be too much coincidence? Like I say, I'm just looking for input.

[Chefelf]

I think IG-88s are great. They are very scary looking. Much less birdlike and slick than the battledroids we see in the PT.

I'd be scared of an army of IG-88s marching my way. Of course, I'm a great coward and would be greatly frightened by an army of puppies, frogs or gerbils as well.

[Paladin]

The advanced battle droids looked pretty good in AOTC, but I really wonder just why the past is so much more advanced than the future?

[HK 47]

IG-88 look way better than the battledroids, less humanoid in a way, hence more scary. If you wan't a droid army, sure why not. Did you see the design for IG-88s ship in SotE? I just like the idea that his cockpit was on the outside of the ship, open and unprotected. He's a droid so why not.

One thing on fanfic in general though, when people write their own PT fanfic, why not simply toss everything from the official PT aside? Don't let yourself be restricted in any way by Lucas prequel ideas. We knew nothing about the clone wars from the OT remember.

Example: No droid army, no Naboo, no "rule of two", no Qui-Gon, no Darth Maul, no Jedi Council, no midichlorians (goes without saying), no Anakin as a kid etc etc etc. The PT could be so very different than what it turned out to be and I just feel that often fanfic writers are too influenced by what's already been done. Obviously I'm not saying you're doing this, I just hope for more open-mindedness when it comes to the PT from fanfic writers in general. Thoughts?

[Chefelf]

IG-88 look way better than the battledroids, less humanoid in a way, hence more scary. If you wan't a droid army, sure why not. Did you see the design for IG-88s ship in SotE? I just like the idea that his cockpit was on the outside of the ship, open and unprotected. He's a droid so why not.

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I remember fighting IG-88 in the SotE game for N64. That was scary enough. He was hard. Not as hard as Boba Fett, but pretty hard.

One thing on fanfic in general though, when people write their own PT fanfic, why not simply toss everything from the official PT aside? Don't let yourself be restricted in any way by Lucas prequel ideas. We knew nothing about the clone wars from the OT remember.

Example: No droid army, no Naboo, no "rule of two", no Qui-Gon, no Darth Maul, no Jedi Council, no midichlorians (goes without saying), no Anakin as a kid etc etc etc. The PT could be so very different than what it turned out to be and I just feel that often fanfic writers are too influenced by what's already been done. Obviously I'm not saying you're doing this, I just hope for more open-mindedness when it comes to the PT from fanfic writers in general. Thoughts?

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While I agree with what you're saying, that kind of goes against what fanfic is: fiction by fans. Tossing out all the ideas of the PT would be something that a non-fan would do. So fanfic that shows none of the PT characters would more likely be OT fanfic. Star Wars is in a unique position as far as fanfic goes in this vein.

In my rewrite of the PT there would certainly be no Naboo, no battledroids, no Mace Windu, no Qui-Gon Jinn, no rule of two and CERTAINLY no midichlorians.

The rule of two is one of the more "out of left field" rules. While it holds true (to an extent) to some of the rules of martial training, limiting it in such a way is not wise. Masters rarely take on one student. One apprentice, maybe, but masters should single out special students for special training, not limit themselves to one.

[WhoCares]

IG-88 look way better than the battledroids, less humanoid in a way, hence more scary. If you wan't a droid army, sure why not. Did you see the design for IG-88s ship in SotE? I just like the idea that his cockpit was on the outside of the ship, open and unprotected. He's a droid so why not.

One thing on fanfic in general though, when people write their own PT fanfic, why not simply toss everything from the official PT aside? Don't let yourself be restricted in any way by Lucas prequel ideas. We knew nothing about the clone wars from the OT remember.

Example: No droid army, no Naboo, no "rule of two", no Qui-Gon, no Darth Maul, no Jedi Council, no midichlorians (goes without saying), no Anakin as a kid etc etc etc. The PT could be so very different than what it turned out to be and I just feel that often fanfic writers are too influenced by what's already been done. Obviously I'm not saying you're doing this, I just hope for more open-mindedness when it comes to the PT from fanfic writers in general. Thoughts?

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No Stupid prophecy how about that!.

I also like the IG-88 idea since I am big IG-88 fan. Nice one Curtis

[WhoCares]

I remember fighting IG-88 in the SotE game for N64.  That was scary enough.  He was hard.  Not as hard as Boba Fett, but pretty hard.

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That is a great game that i had completely forgot about. I still dont know why not many people liked it.

[CowboyCurtis]

Thanks, guys. That really helps. I am rejecting a lot of Lucas' "garbage" but not everything. As with the OT, I think he has some great kernels of ideas, but just needed temperance. So, I'm taking the things I like and trying to make it seem like Lucas created it, but he had the crew he had before to form it into something cohesive so far. I've borrowed some ideas from other posters because they make sense, trying to get a feel for what others had expected from the prequels.

I'm going to ask more questions like this, and then when I'm done, I'll post my final ideas on how to make better prequels.

Thanks, again, guys!!

[floppydisk]

Umm... Guys, weren't there only six of the IG-88's created? They killed thier creators when activated, then went on killing innocents. Boba Fett destroyed one or two (I can't remember, might have been three) and one hooked up with that Bounty Hunter in ESB.

Also in A New Hope, if you look behind the counter in the bar where Obi-Wan hacks the alien's arm off, you can see the head of an IG-88 being used for a lamp.

[Helena]

Whilst the 'rule of two' is somewhat extreme, the idea that the Sith deliberately chose to keep their heads down and their numbers small is quite a sensible one. In KOTOR, where there were a lot of Sith, they spent so much time fighting amongst themselves that it's hardly surprising they never managed to get their act together and conquer the galaxy - and from what we see of Vader and the Emperor's relationship in the OT, little has changed. You can imagine them being all but wiped out by the Jedi, with the few remaining Sith going into hiding and quietly plotting to bring down the Republic from within.

[Vwing]

I remember fighting IG-88 in the SotE game for N64.  That was scary enough.  He was hard.  Not as hard as Boba Fett, but pretty hard.

Funny, I thought IG-88 was the hardest and scariest villain in the game. I kicked Boba Fett's ass the first time I fought him. But IG-88 took me like a week to beat, and like you said he was one scary droid.

The idea of a droid army is an interesting one, though Lucas just did it so that he wouldn't have to show actual people dying. I don't know if I would keep that for a rewrite of the PT, because it does seem like much more technologically advanced than the OT, and there is no mention of it in the OT. You would think that the Empire would keep at least some of the battle droids for missions that didn't require thinking, so they could keep their best soldiers for the tougher missions. So maybe I would just go with a regular army, or a very inferior droid army.

Also, the fact that the Republic had no army was ridiculous. That would definitely get scrapped in my rewrite. To just leave yourself wide open to attack while organizations like the TF get an army big enough to take over an entire planet is ludicrous.

Umm... Guys, weren't there only six of the IG-88's created? They killed thier creators when activated, then went on killing innocents. Boba Fett destroyed one or two (I can't remember, might have been three) and one hooked up with that Bounty Hunter in ESB.

Also in A New Hope, if you look behind the counter in the bar where Obi-Wan hacks the alien's arm off, you can see the head of an IG-88 being used for a lamp.

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Geek alert!

LoL, joking, unfortunately I actually knew the first part too, I think what you said is basically correct. I never noticed the IG-88 head though.

[CowboyCurtis]

I like the idea of droids marching on a city, single-purposed, emotionless. I like this very much, and it works well with my idea on how they're to be defeated, which is different than what was in TPM, and it would the older Anakin's idea, too, utilizing his knowlegde in repair/robotics, etc., rather than a total accident. In fact, Anakin doesn't fly a fighter at all in my re-write.

Like I say, I think Lucas has some good ideas, they just need to be presented and executed in a better, logical form.

As for the only six IG-88's (SNORT! HAHAHA!! I knew that, and I do not adhere to EU garbage. It's baloney). What I will adhere to is something that Lucas had mentioned (long before TPM was made) about why droids had to have restraining bolts on them...

Helena: Too true. In my re-writes, the Sith are fewer, and they do keep a low profile because they are, but they are taking out Jedi out slowly, which won't become evident until Episode II.

VWing: The idea of a droid army is an interesting one, though Lucas just did it so that he wouldn't have to show actual people dying.

Right, Lucas completely wimped out. In my re-writes, the droids are fierce and numerous, there would actually be scenes where the Alderaans/Gungans, fighting side-by-side would be losing---a lot of lives!! The heroes' return to Alderaan would be imperative! None of this "Oh, the people are starving to death in the last two days!" crap! The Mandalores count on the droids, but they know that if they are to successfully conquer, they need people to do it, not droids. They know the limitation of technology, so that's why they're raiding Alderaan....

WhoCares: No Stupid prophecy how about that!.

There is a prophecy, but it's not the stupid one Lucas came up with. This one should make a lot more sense, and give a lot more weight to the whole Skywalker family...