Punk What Is It?
#1
Posted 01 December 2004 - 06:33 PM
So, he said, calling on the scattered punk-loving elements of the board, what is it?
You could argue "the sound of three chords". After all, our friends the Ramones were punk, they were a three-chord spectacular? Blink 182 are not punk, there's no attitude...
Dress sense? Nope, don't see the Ramones coated in metal bits, slashed jeans and fuck knows what.
Is it based on "selling out"? The Sex Pistols were supposed never to have sold out, nowadays that comment is worth half an hour of laughter. Besides, there's probably a shedload of bands which are punk, that are on major labels.
Simply to piss people off? Heccubus' sig, until very recently, was Johnny Ramone commenting on why he dedicated his speech to George Bush "I did it to piss people off, that's how I am". I can't see the anti-establisment siding behind ol' Georgey Boy just to annoy everyone, they're against him to a.) annoy the establisment b.) protest against his policies.
Pissing off people shouldn't be a goal, people should be pissed off for a reason. And herein lies a lead.
The Sex Pistols (I don't care what you actually think of the music, leave it a while) wrote "God Save The Queen", initially, because they objected to the monarchy. I assume. Pissing people off was naturally going to happen. If it was the other way around, I'm stuck for examples.
We'll start with "Do what you feel is right, damn the consequences." Its not the right definition, I don't like it, but we shall allow the tides of debate to scuplt an answer. Get to it...
Less Is More v4
Now resigned to a readership of me, my cat and some fish
#2
Posted 01 December 2004 - 10:43 PM
#3
Posted 02 December 2004 - 11:52 AM
JM's official press secretary, scientific advisor, diplomat and apparent antagonist?
#6
Posted 04 December 2004 - 04:26 AM
I would like to consider me punk and that my ultimate punk moment (in the not so distant future) would be when my boss would ask me to work over the weekend and I'd just give him the finger, say "eh!" and walk out.
#7
Posted 04 December 2004 - 05:57 AM
Always been a good description to me. Unfortunatly, it usually gets taken as drooling inanity, as opposed to antiestablismentarialism...
Less Is More v4
Now resigned to a readership of me, my cat and some fish
#8
Posted 04 December 2004 - 09:37 AM
It's a bit difficult to define punk these days. Because society has changed so much since sex-pistol days, punk music is no longer extreme. See good charlotte. See simple plan. But at the same time you have bands like rancid, who are punk to the extreme. But then you have tim armstrong from rancid starting the transplants and writing songs for pink. And you go 'what the fuck?'
I think being 'punk' is no longer recognisable as what it used to be. For instance, dressing punk means absolutely nothing. Everybody does it. But punk isn't about a certain look or style, it's more about being an individual. And with societys current interpretation of punk, nobody really gets it.
Or something. Fuck but that reads like a load of shite.
#9
Posted 04 December 2004 - 09:39 AM
Less Is More v4
Now resigned to a readership of me, my cat and some fish
#10
Posted 04 December 2004 - 09:58 AM
Bad example maybe.
#12
Posted 06 December 2004 - 12:50 PM
#13
Posted 06 December 2004 - 05:36 PM
#14
Posted 06 December 2004 - 05:51 PM
I think I heard one "The White Stripes" song that I actually liked. I'm pretty sure it was called 'Seve Nation Army" or something. Then the song was played endlessly on the radio, it lost its qualitly after that.
This post has been edited by Shawnathan: 06 December 2004 - 05:53 PM
--They Call Him Rick: I'm telling you, it's not that bad
#15
Posted 06 December 2004 - 07:13 PM
You mean the same ones who call people "faggot" all the time then?
Not a term that I appreciate in any context.