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Tired Movie Cliches That we shouldn't have to put up with.

#46 User is offline   Vwing Icon

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Posted 16 November 2004 - 07:05 PM

QUOTE (Stongbah @ Nov 12 2004, 10:53 PM)
How about remakes or movies based off something where there's "clever" homages and injokes. Like in X-Men in a scene where Wolverine is angry about the stupid uniforms they wear, and Cyclops says "Would you rather have yellow spandex?" or something like that. The Star Wars prequels have plenty of these as well.

Eh, you know what, if it doesn't dominate the movie I don't have a problem with it. I liked the yellow spandex line, and frankly, one of the only good lines of the SW prequels is "You'll be the death of me." So I think those can be good if used right.
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Posted 23 November 2004 - 09:11 PM

the yellow spandex call was good... cause if you didn't get it it's still a good random call...

the death of me line, was just cheap...
it's the exact oposite... if you didn't know that he would actually be the death of him, it would be funny afterwards when you watch it all again...

like in Felloship of the ring at rivendell... it's not like a one liner or something but, when the two hobbits are saying like, wow what an adventure we had... when the'ye not even a quater of the way through...
it's kind of poinient...

but an obvious line like the death of me one is lame...
because it's that and some nedless cameos that are all we have to lead us to believe that anyone responsible for the preqeuls had actually seen the originals...

but more likley that line was just a coincidence...
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Posted 27 November 2004 - 06:06 PM

I guess the cliche I'm sick of is the "Cool-Historical-Event-Movie-Ruined-By-Tacked-On-Love-Story" Cliche. They ruined the coolness of Titanic with this, along with Pearl Harbour (How much time in that 3-hour long piece O'shit was focused on the ACTUAL attack?). Hell, I'm sick of tacked-on love stories period. Love stories are great and all, but not when they take away from a movie's coolness.
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Posted 29 November 2004 - 01:07 AM

Case in point: Attack of the Clones.
The Green Knight, SimeSublime the Puffinesque, liker of chips and hunter of gnomes.
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Posted 03 December 2004 - 12:39 AM

QUOTE (SimeSublime @ Nov 29 2004, 02:07 AM)
Case in point:  Attack of the Clones.


DING DING DING!
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Posted 15 December 2004 - 05:22 PM

When you think about it, EVERYTHING we see in movies these days is a cliche -

Random, spontaneous sex

Clumsy hulks

Surprisingly agile hulks

People gaining super-strength and agility from obscure sources (death ala "The Crow" or 2004's craptacular "Catwoman", experiments ala Jeff Goldblum in the 1986 remake of "The Fly", mutant spider bites ala 2002/2004 "Spider-Man/Spider-Man 2")

People "magically falling in love at first sight"

Men whose "repressed love" for a woman makes them obsessive and creepy (Attack of the Clones and, to a lesser extent maybe, the Spider-Man films)

Brawny men being beaten to a pulp by anorexic, kung fu model waif women

Blondes of various physical size, intellect and personalities

Almost all men shave on a regular basis instead of having beards (or mustaches or goatees for that matter) because women presumably want clean-shaven men.

Leather as the definition of "cool".

Allegedly plain women getting make-overs to become the "belle of the ball" even though they were already fairly cute to begin with.

Taking a well established, much beloved myth and then trying to "demystify" it so as to present up to date anacronistic characterizations (think 2004's "Troy")

Superhero movies that boil down to the hero saving his girlfriend from some supervillain (Batman 1 and 3)

Jovial, "charmingly" cocky punks having to learn to buckle down ("Top Gun" and "Treasure Planet").

Insecure whiny young men having to apologize for being who they are to their girlfriends (any random teen movie, TV's "That 70s Show")

Smarmy, annoying rivals you're supposed to hate

And the list goes on and on...
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Posted 15 December 2004 - 09:18 PM

people who accept responsibility for something when they were only in the room when it happened...

always in sitcoms that have kids...

leather IS the definition of cool... it's just that any asshole can put it on... and no it doesn't make him cool... but if a cool person puts it on, it makes him more obviously cool tongue.gif
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Posted 17 December 2004 - 09:34 AM

How about whenever a person takes off his/her glasses and suddenly they're unbearably handsome/beautiful/more attractive/desirable?

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 09:25 PM

not as good as heros who are only recognisable when they are not wearing reading glasses, or have a mask on...

i mean for fucks sake... lois lane worked with superman... and she didn't put it together...

mary-jane grew up with peter parker but doen't know his voice?

and same for batman and catwoman in the movie i just defended in another thread...

damn it people... pay more attention...
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Posted 18 January 2005 - 02:43 PM

Have we covered the old cliche of the romantic rival who's such an asshole/bitch that he's unbearable to watch?
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 01:07 AM

i hate stupid love triangles...

titanic:

if i were a lady, i think i'd prefer to be mistreated by billy zane, than loved by leonardo dicaprio
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 05:20 AM

Thank you! Barend, my friend, you have hit the nail on the head there. There are many reasons why I hate Titanic ~ the formulaic story, its general smugness, the way it tries to be clever, yet fails but acts as if it believes it was succeeding...

However, that simplistic love triangle is the thing about the film I detest the most.

How did James Cameron pitch that one to the studios?

"A girl is torn between two men - one who is a total abusive prick and is horrible to her and another who is really kind and loves her. And in our story, we watch as the girl decides which man she will choose."

I mean, what a great premise...

... for a twenty second commercial.
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Posted 21 January 2005 - 09:17 AM

Leo DiCaprio is often the good guy to actors who outcharm him.

Daniel Day-Lewis
Billy Zane
Gene Hackman
etc.

he's not a bad actor... it's just that his enemies always have more charisma
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Posted 21 January 2005 - 10:05 AM

QUOTE (barend @ Jan 21 2005, 07:17 AM)
Leo DiCaprio is often the good guy to actors who outcharm him.

Daniel Day-Lewis
Billy Zane
Gene Hackman
etc.

he's not a bad actor... it's just that his enemies always have more charisma


Do you think it's possible that if Titanic had tanked at the box office (making little to no money) the folk who hate Leo wouldn't hate him quite as much?

This post has been edited by Lord Aquaman: 21 January 2005 - 10:06 AM

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Posted 23 January 2005 - 08:54 PM

he was hated long before that...
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