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Who thinks lucas even intended making 3, let alone I think Star wars was supposed to it

#1 User is offline   ozfan Icon

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Posted 27 October 2004 - 01:45 AM

Who else feels like episode IV was supposed to be a one off?

If you look at this movie and the story points revealed in it it makes sense that Lucas had no intention of making any more movies.

Remember that this movie was a huge risk at the time, not many people wanted to touch it

I dont buy this "I had to write a whole story to figure out the characters" bit for a second.

He simply hit on a huge sucess and like every other hollywood movie said 'Hey lets milk it for a sequel"

If you think of the plot etc in ep 4 it makes a nice compact story arc

1. Darth Vader betrayed and murdered Lukes father.
Yep i can buy that, why even have darth vader as lukes father? by doing this obi wan is now forced into the horseshit " oh you cant take what i say litterally" crapola.

2. Luke and leia are not related
again invented by Lucas because it would be cool

3. anakin did not build 3po
Obvious

4. darth vader was never taught by anyone other than obi wan
Qui Gon? Please its obvious that obi wan spotted a YOUNG MAN, Anakin, thought he should be a jedi, did a half assed job of it and somehow the emperor got his hands on him. Does it really need 3 prequel movies to explain how?
It was much better when left up to the imagination

there are probably more reasons but thats all I can think of for the moment.
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Posted 27 October 2004 - 03:19 AM

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Yep i can buy that, why even have darth vader as lukes father? by doing this obi wan is now forced into the horseshit " oh you cant take what i say litterally" crapola.


Well, it didn't have to be that way. A third movie where Luke started having second thoughts about this whole Jedi business because of Obi-Wan's dishonesty could have been dynamite. The "what I said was true from a certain point of view" is lazy, facile, a cop-out--but it could have been different.

I have to say, in passing, that the bad movies (and other stories) that frustrate me the most are the ones that could have been good. Some stuff is doomed from the start and you can't bring yourself to care much about whether it's bad. Nobody outside of a few Scientologists ever thought that Travolta's Battlefield Earth movie was going to be any good because the starting material is mostly garbage with a few interesting bits maybe but little else.

But with other stories there's promise that goes maddeningly unfulfilled. I've felt that way about a lot of Batman comics: here's this extraordinary, compelling character that you could tell many great stories about (look at "Batman: Year One", for example) but a lot of the Batman stories out there are utter garbage. It's like that with Star Wars. Again, you've got some wonderful material to work from. Some fascinating tales could be told given Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back as background. (Maybe they've been told, but I haven't read any of the fanfic or the spinoff novels.) Lucas, unfortunately, didn't or couldn't tell those stories. And maybe that's why the prequels have provoked such reaction--they didn't have to be crap.
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Posted 27 October 2004 - 07:27 PM

Lucas had always said (before he lost all his sanity and made the PT) his original Star Wars script was far too big so he cut it in half, and if Episode 4 ever succeeded, he'd do more. I don't think he even thought Star Wars would have been a success. But it was, so he made Episode 5, most of which he had already written in the original Star Wars script. But as evidence by the brother/sister revelation and the ewoks, he made up much of ROTJ after Empire, when his mind was already slowly losing it.

This post has been edited by Michel Orla: 27 October 2004 - 07:28 PM

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