[J m HofMarN]

Yoda in ep 1: Crap I couldn't sense the dark side if it was standing infront of me and ascending to the seat of the republic senate!

Yoda and Obi Wan in ep 2: Hey, Dooku, I can tell you're evil a mile away, sucker.

Mace in ep 3: Hey Palpatine, suddenly, and for no apparent reasons since I never had any suspicions about you at all, I've decided that you're evil. Why don't you kill me off?

Can Lucas even keep consistency from one prequel to the next? Forget about fitting in with the OT half the time he dosnt even keep to his own nonsensical ideas.

[Jordan]

It seems to me that the Force has increased greatly in granting Jedi physical powers. But on the other hand, it's degraded to hit and miss as far as mental ability is concerned.

It all makes sense though, JM. This movie is not about story line or consistency with the OT. (ok loose consistency is what Lucas was aiming for) It's about CG. It's that simple.

Look at the relationship.


Computer graphics Increase in technology and are a predominant element in the PT's.

As a result Jedi become superheros. Jumping, flying, etc..

However, Jedi mental awarness has dropped into the danger zone. The inability to see a bad guy, not but 3 feet beside you, is just ridiculous. A fricken dog could sense Palpatines evil.

Proportional relation ship: ComputerGraphics = k(jedi power)

Inverse Proportion: ComputerGraphics=k/(Jedi brains)

This post has been edited by Jordan: 25 October 2004 - 06:46 PM

[Just your average movie goer]

A fricken dog could sense Palpatines evil.

Jordan! That's great!


Yoda is playing with Lassie when suddenly the dog starts barking wildly.

Yoda: Girl, it, what is?

Lassie: Woof! Woof! Woof!

Yoda looks up and sees Palpatine nearby.

Lassie: Woof! Woof! Woof!

Yoda: Palpatine? The dark side of the force in Palpatine, you sense?

[J m HofMarN]

That was beautifull.

[Despondent]

The dog could pee on the floor and Yoda still wouldn't know to let him out.

It happened when Vader was redeemed. In playing that first, desperate card, Anikan (whotever) Vader goes to heaven and Lucas crossed over to dollars over substance. And he's never turned back.

The Virgin Birth is the other bookend. Characters and relationships are abandoned for an easily replicated play experience.

[ernesttomlinson]

"However, Jedi mental awarness has dropped into the danger zone. The inability to see a bad guy, not but 3 feet beside you, is just ridiculous. A fricken dog could sense Palpatines evil."

(half-joking) Maybe Sen. Palpatine is really only Darth Sidious's twin brother! One's good, the other's evil. Sort of like Bette Davis in Dead Ringer or like the Old Nixon and the New Nixon (look up Art Buchwald's columns from the Nixon era to see what I'm talking about.) So Yoda and Mace Windu wouldn't have sensed the evil from Palpatine in The Phantom Menace because he wasn't the bad guy; the Roger Ebert patented Unmotivated Closeup on Palpatine in that scene was Lucas's clever way of throwing us off the scent.

I don't credit Lucas with that much imagination, though.

Incidentally, what's with Lucas's tin ear for names, especially of his latest crop of bad guys? Could they be any less subtle? (In)Sidious? Maul? Dooku? (Well, not Dooku. That's about as menacing sounding a name as H. R. Pufnstuf.) But I see in the IMDb listing that he also to be called "Darth Tyranus". Argh.

But maybe they're not names really but handles. After all, people in all sorts of special communities choose appropriate-sounding "handles" for themselves. If you're a Wiccan you adopt names like "Silver Ravenwolf" or "Pete Pathfinder". (Real people, the both of them, by the way.) If you're a Catholic, you adopt a different sort of handle, the name of a saint. (Mine's Gabriel.) So maybe to become a Sith Lord you have to go through a confirmation ceremony and pick an eeeevil sounding name for yourself.

[HK 47]

Incidentally, what's with Lucas's tin ear for names, especially of his latest crop of bad guys? Could they be any less subtle? (In)Sidious? Maul? Dooku?

Yes they could: Elan Sleazebaggano (the Death Stick pusher) will always be number one on my subtle names list. The OT had its fair share (Greedo), but it was never this bad. Wonder if Vader is suppose to be derived from Darth (In)Vader? Strange how every skill Lucas used to have seemingly disappears in time for the PT. Even creating names, I'm almost beginning to believe that "pact with Satan" explanation.

[Helena]

In Knights of the Old Republic (sorry, sorry) the two Jedi who became Sith Lords - Revan and Malak - just kept their own names and became Darth Revan and Darth Malak. Don't know when the tradition of choosing an eeeevil-sounding name for yourself came about, though obviously all the Sith we see in the Prequels and the OT have good reason to want to conceal their identity. Except for the Emperor, and he dispenses with the name 'Darth Sideous' after taking power (and who can blame him)?

Leaving that aside, I agree that Lucas's character names are just getting worse and worse. Elan Sleazebaggano... I just couldn't believe it when I checked the script and saw that this was his name. As for Maul, I still like J m's idea of calling him 'Darth Makeup'.