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#1 User is offline   Vwing Icon

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Posted 22 October 2004 - 02:06 PM

Ok, this forum has, as the title of my post suggests, gotten just a bit repetitive. The only really original posts I've seen in a while have been Civ's "if someone else directed TPM post" and JYAMG's stories. And the pic with Leia and Luke is original I guess, just very, very creepy. So, I propose new rules for governing this forum.

1. No posts bashing certain aspects of ROTJ - I'm not saying no bashing of ROTJ. I'm just saying think of a NEW way to bash it. Case and point the incestuous pic that Chef posted *winces". This means

- no Ewok bashing
- no talk of its unoriginality (ex. 2 death stars) unless presented originally
- nothing about "certain point of view" line
- nothing about the immorality of Anakin's ghost at the end
- nothing about Boba Fett's death
- nothing about Han's character

Now, you may think I'm just saying this so I don't have to read anything bad pertaining to ROTJ because I love it. That's not true. I just hate defending the SAME POINTS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. Give me something new to defend. Oh, just a note, pictures and discussions of Leia's bikini are fine smile.gif.

2. No Lucas bashing - I know, you know, we all know (except Jariten) that Lucas is a pompous prick who after 22 years forgot how to write and direct a movie, and puts himself above his fans, who made him what he is. Nothing new is needed about that. Exceptions are if Lucas comes out with a More Specialer Edition, or if he does anything else new that we can say he is a pompous prick for. And of course, when Episode III comes out.

3. Prequels - With chef's reasons, plus about a year of this forum, the reasons the prequels suck have pretty much been beaten to death. We have also had a bunch of posts such as "What did you like about the prequels" with basically the same answers. We have had Jariten and others (including, occasionally, myself) defend aspects of the prequels, or defend them entirely. We have had people defend their reasons for hating them.

Basically, what I'm saying is, and I hate to be repetitive using this word, but bash (or praise) them originally. An example is JYAMG's stories. Something humorous, something insightful, something. But no "Jar-Jar sucks", nothing about how the Virgin Birth was ridiculous, as were the Chosen One and midichlorian concepts. Just please, something juicy!

4. More talk of Episode III - This is a Star Wars forum. Now even as prequel-haters, we have a responsibility to at least discuss Episode III. I've tried to start a couple posts on it that have gone away pretty quickly, as have some others. But since we've beaten the prequels to death, let's start beating ROTS to death as well. We've already covered the lava surfing, but how about the inconsistencies, the upcoming trailer (November 5), the new characters, the story. Whether positive or negative (most likely negative), let's talk about the last installment in Operation Destroy Childhood Memories.

5. More talk of the good qualities of the OT - Well, for ROTJ you can refer back to rule 1, but let's talk about our memories. Let's talk about how we felt when we saw the binary sunset, when we saw the death star destroyed, when we learned Vader was Luke's father, when we saw a father redeem himself to save his son. We have done much less of this than we could have, and we should start doing it much more. It would lead to more interesting, positive discussions about the OT.

Now let me clarify. These rules only pertain to the TOPIC of a post. Certainly you can mention in your post any of above things, it's not like they're taboo. This is just to steer posters in different directions. It only pertains to posts within a topic if that post (intentionally or not) hijacks the topic and changes it to one of the above topics.

Again, these are only proposed rules, you can proclaim your disdain for them, say you love them, add to them, subtract from them, anything you want. I just thought I would put it out there for discussion.
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 08:10 PM

They sound like good rules to me, mate. I for one am also not that interested in re-treading old ground over and over again. Even for bashing Return of the Jedi, my once fiery enthusiasm has been replaced by a more complacent attitude. Sure, I still think it's crap but I don't really feel like trying to convince other people about its inferiority anymore.

So, I'm all for these rules. As for Episode III, the reason I myself haven't discussed it much is because I don't know much about it yet. But when other people make their posts on the matter, I'll definitely try to join in. smile.gif

Also, I'm glad you liked the stories. Actually part of the reason I made them was to do something different when it seemed that there was nothing new being discussed in the forum. And they were a lot of fun for me as well.
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 10:02 PM

You forgot one:

6. No more topics about how there are no more topics to discuss and how we should make a rule against repetition biggrin.gif


But seriously, we had a surge in new members there for a while, and then anytime they brought something up, they werehit with "We discussed that already; check the archives."

Granted, very few of them were likely supermodels or porn stars, so who cares?
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 10:10 PM

You're right. And I did feel very sorry for our newcomers. It's not their fault the rest of us had done all the standard topics to death.
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 10:45 PM

I'll certainly excuse newcomers, they don't know any better, and you're right, I did feel kinda sorry for them that they joined the discussion when we were all bored with it. After all, if I were new to a forum, I'm not the type of person who would go through the archives. I'm too lazy.

I'm talking about threads by the forum vets which have been discussed many times, and this has been going on for a while. It's just beginning to get to me, I think I'm finally burning out a bit.

And yes Civ, I was just getting to #6. And I just thought of #7. I think you can guess what it is smile.gif

This post has been edited by Vwing: 22 October 2004 - 10:46 PM

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Posted 22 October 2004 - 10:48 PM

It was witty enough. smile.gif Man, those time differences... it's the middle of the day in Korea. Anyway, you probably oughta get some sleep, mate. And I better put some sunscreen on before I go out in a few minutes.
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 10:53 PM

I just edited in what I thought was a better response. For continuity's sake, here's what I originally had, and what JYAMG responded to, so no one thinks he's crazy.

"And yes Civ, I was just getting to #6. And I just thought of #7. No snide remarks by certain members with avatars from video games.

I'm sorry, that should've been funnier, or at least a bit wittier, but it's late here, and I'm getting very sleepy. Just replace #7 with whatever witty response to Civ I would make on a good day and you'll see where I was going smile.gif"

It's kind of like the LOTR EE. Both of em are out there, decide which one you like better. Luckily, my edited version isn't 40 dollars smile.gif
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Posted 22 October 2004 - 11:02 PM

Give Me The Originals Dammit! cool.gif
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Posted 23 October 2004 - 12:44 AM

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It's not their fault the rest of us had done all the standard topics to death.


There was a number of people who shined new light on old topics for me. But after awhile it got tiring since we all agreed that SW PT sucked. It was at that time I wanted to get some diehards in here from the SW forums, but that idea did not go over so well with people here.

But don't worry, we still have episode III.

And after Episode III, I'm sure we will all migrate to the MOVIE forum and start complaining bitterly about hollywood and all that.

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Posted 23 October 2004 - 02:54 PM

No no, after ep 3 we have to start fighting ep 7, 8 and 9. It is a tireless fight, our battle.

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Posted 23 October 2004 - 09:19 PM

Maybe I should tell Lucas I have Episodes 7 to 9 covered and send them to him.

EPISODE VII - THE REIGN OF BAREND

EPISODE VIII - CIVILIAN TAKES COMMAND

EPISODE IX - THE LAST RESISTANCE
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Posted 23 October 2004 - 09:22 PM

I should add that I'm only joking about sending them to him. I don't want to find Lucas henchmen coming after me in Korea. So nobody take that idea literally.
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Posted 23 October 2004 - 10:12 PM

Rule #8 - No shameless advertising in other people's posts smile.gif
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Posted 23 October 2004 - 10:48 PM

I walked into that one.
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Posted 25 October 2004 - 09:40 AM

Well it's just very hard to police. Even with repetition of topics comes new ideas and viewpoints. The last thing I want is for new users to be scared away by people yelling at them for saying something that's already been said before.

Everyone here was new once. Everyone here has stated something here for the first time. And most of that stuff has been discussed elsewhere. smile.gif
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