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Yet another list of ten Your overconfidence is your weakness.
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Posted 17 October 2004 - 10:37 PM
I was thinking about this on Saturday when I was working. What are the worst instances in the Star Wars movies (first three, please) where a character confidently says something that's hopelessly, preciously wrong?
1. Ben: "Only imperial Stormtroopers are so precise."
2. Ben: "This place can be a little rough." Luke: "I'm ready for anything."
3. Adm. Motti: "Any attack made by the Rebels against this station would be a useless gesture, no matter what technical data they have obtained. This station is now the ultimate power in the universe!" (Am I the only one who thinks that Motti sounds a little, er, nelly?)
4. Adm. Motti: "Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes, or given you clairvoyance enough to help you find the rebels' hidden fortr--" (I take this as Lucas's knowing wink to Akira Kurosawa and The Hidden Fortress, an inspiration for Star Wars, although not as much an inspiration as some have claimed.)
5. Solo: "Everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you." (How are you?)
6. Biggs: "Eject!" Porkins: "No, I can hold it!"
7. Gov. Tarkin (no way I'm calling him "Grand Moff"): "Evacuate?? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances."
8. Luke: "You will bring Captain Solo and the wookiee to me." (I think Luke cuts a really bad figure here and everywhere in the first act of Return of the Jedi. Talk about overconfidence being a weakness...)
9. Emperor: "An entire legion of my best troops awaits them!" (Actually just about everything the Emperor says can be put on this list but this is the funniest moment. In context.)
Finally, the shortest and best.
10. Solo and Lando: "It's not my fault!"
1. Ben: "Only imperial Stormtroopers are so precise."
2. Ben: "This place can be a little rough." Luke: "I'm ready for anything."
3. Adm. Motti: "Any attack made by the Rebels against this station would be a useless gesture, no matter what technical data they have obtained. This station is now the ultimate power in the universe!" (Am I the only one who thinks that Motti sounds a little, er, nelly?)
4. Adm. Motti: "Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes, or given you clairvoyance enough to help you find the rebels' hidden fortr--" (I take this as Lucas's knowing wink to Akira Kurosawa and The Hidden Fortress, an inspiration for Star Wars, although not as much an inspiration as some have claimed.)
5. Solo: "Everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you." (How are you?)
6. Biggs: "Eject!" Porkins: "No, I can hold it!"
7. Gov. Tarkin (no way I'm calling him "Grand Moff"): "Evacuate?? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances."
8. Luke: "You will bring Captain Solo and the wookiee to me." (I think Luke cuts a really bad figure here and everywhere in the first act of Return of the Jedi. Talk about overconfidence being a weakness...)
9. Emperor: "An entire legion of my best troops awaits them!" (Actually just about everything the Emperor says can be put on this list but this is the funniest moment. In context.)
Finally, the shortest and best.
10. Solo and Lando: "It's not my fault!"
#2
Posted 18 October 2004 - 05:36 AM
Surely you've forgotten 'If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine'? And now that we've seen the prequels, you can include just about anything Obi-Wan says about Anakin Skywalker.
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The sandpeople had women and children. We know this because Anakin killed them how could he tell? The children might be smaller but I never saw a sandperson with breasts. Did they hike their skirts and show him some leg or something?
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Also, I can see the point of wanting to kidnap a human and use her as a slave, but they didn't. They tied her to a flimsy easel for a month. It's assumed they had to feed and give her water. What for? Was she purely ornamental? I can understand them wanting the droids, you can sell those for a lot of money, but a chick who's only skills are finding non-existand mushrooms and getting randomly pregnant, you're not going to get much.
- J m HofMarN on the Sand People
#4
Posted 18 October 2004 - 07:43 AM
I think you missed the point slightly, MC...
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The sandpeople had women and children. We know this because Anakin killed them how could he tell? The children might be smaller but I never saw a sandperson with breasts. Did they hike their skirts and show him some leg or something?
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Also, I can see the point of wanting to kidnap a human and use her as a slave, but they didn't. They tied her to a flimsy easel for a month. It's assumed they had to feed and give her water. What for? Was she purely ornamental? I can understand them wanting the droids, you can sell those for a lot of money, but a chick who's only skills are finding non-existand mushrooms and getting randomly pregnant, you're not going to get much.
- J m HofMarN on the Sand People
#8
Posted 18 October 2004 - 08:39 AM
I think he meant 'wrong' in the sense of 'untrue', not 'bad'.
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The sandpeople had women and children. We know this because Anakin killed them how could he tell? The children might be smaller but I never saw a sandperson with breasts. Did they hike their skirts and show him some leg or something?
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Also, I can see the point of wanting to kidnap a human and use her as a slave, but they didn't. They tied her to a flimsy easel for a month. It's assumed they had to feed and give her water. What for? Was she purely ornamental? I can understand them wanting the droids, you can sell those for a lot of money, but a chick who's only skills are finding non-existand mushrooms and getting randomly pregnant, you're not going to get much.
- J m HofMarN on the Sand People
#9
Posted 19 October 2004 - 12:18 AM
Oh, I see what you mean. It is just that some of the Ernest quotes did not seem to me "untrue" but "bad" - like "you will bring Captian Solo and the wookie to me".
On the second thought you are right, it is not a true statement - in ROTJ Han was already a general
But ok, I did get the whole idea "wrong" .
On the second thought you are right, it is not a true statement - in ROTJ Han was already a general
But ok, I did get the whole idea "wrong" .
#10
Posted 19 October 2004 - 12:58 AM
My point was that the "bring Captain Solo and the wookiee to me" line is obviously supposed to sound menacing and, of course, irresistibly compelling; it is neither and Luke has a woefully mistaken confidence in his abilities, just as the Emperor has a misplaced confidence in his. (Deliberate, perhaps? Luke dresses all in black in these scenes and does something that we've only see Vader do, employ The Choke.)
I agree that Leia's badinage with Tarkin is pretty dire. "I recognized your foul stench"? A bit adolescent, isn't it? (Although I do like her riposte, "I'm surprised that you had the courage to take the responsibility yourself," to Tarkin's informing her of her pending execution.)
I agree that Leia's badinage with Tarkin is pretty dire. "I recognized your foul stench"? A bit adolescent, isn't it? (Although I do like her riposte, "I'm surprised that you had the courage to take the responsibility yourself," to Tarkin's informing her of her pending execution.)
#11
Posted 19 October 2004 - 01:49 AM
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Ben: "This place can be a little rough." Luke: "I'm ready for anything."
Well, Ben was right about that cantina being rough... two gun fights in less than ten minutes!
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Surely you've forgotten 'If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine'? And now that we've seen the prequels, you can include just about anything Obi-Wan says about Anakin Skywalker.
What exactly is that statement from Ben supposed to mean... They really made Jedi Knights just about the coolest thing in the universe with the OT. But in the Prequels, they destroy everything the OT created. Jedi became a bunch of generic, super powerful space police that are about as mystical a box of corn flakes!
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