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Posted 23 September 2004 - 11:49 PM

Thanks! It was getting hard to bitch about Star Wars when no one else seemed to care. This place is a God send for those who need to vent towards everything Lucas
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Posted 24 September 2004 - 02:50 AM

Arrgh!! How many times is George Lucas going to mess with these damn films? When is his "definitive version" finally going to be released? I'm suprised he hasn't CGI'd over Mark Hamil's face whith Hayden's yet just to get a closer family resemblance. I guess that's for when the Super, Duper, Deluxe, Ultra Special Edition comes out.
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Posted 24 September 2004 - 07:02 AM

Ferris Whiel, I'm insanely jealous of that set you picked up. You have given us hope.

EDIT - Now, if only you could use your bank debit card to buy things off the internet. Oh when will they end the monopoly of credit cards on distance purchasing?

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Posted 24 September 2004 - 11:41 AM

Here's the best way to get your answers about these:

http://www.originalt...801&STARTPAGE=1

This is the guy I bought the Magnoliafan Edits from. Here are excerpts, but please visit the link because this guy has a wealth of info!:

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Star Wars: Episode I - Balance of the Force - MagnoliaFan Edition

This is hands down the most complete and TRUE version of the film

Through the subs, a vast amount of character and plot have been drastically changed. The once vague reason for the ‘Blockade’ of Naboo is now brutally clear. Believe me this version does not hold back. The story now has a much darker feel as the Trade Federation is now depicted as slave traders/owners and there is also talk of ‘death-camps’ and mass exterminations during the invasion. These atrocities were only slightly hinted at in the Phantom Menace but are thrown at you with a frightening casual approach. (You really learn to despise the Trade Federation)

There is a dark secret that is unveiled with the introduction of Jar Jar Binks a history of near genocidal war between the Gungan and the Naboo. This film also shows Jar Jar and all the Gungan beings in a NEW light. (I found a new love and respect for Jar Jar)
Jar Jar’s character through the use of new and un-child like dialogue is now someone else altogether. Witty, funny and a foul mouthed smart-ass; this new Jar Jar is the true comic relief that he was to have been in The Phantom Menace.

It is truly amazing how the dialogue changes can alter the overall feel of a story!

In my opinion this is the version of the film that best fits with the original Trilogy - as the real ‘evil’ of the Empire (okay the Trade Federation but you can see the similarities) is now shown (again in the new subtitled dialogue).

THIS is the version you need to see. I now consider this the DEFINITIVE version of STAR WARS: Episode One.

This may be the strongest and most prolific fan-edited film in a string of seemingly never-ending unauthorized fan re-edits of George Lucas’ STAR WARS films.

- RiKter Blaksvn

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There have are also been a lot of dialogue trims to enhance performance, and extra cuts applied to the film for pacing and plot. NO Midi-hoobie-doobies or talk of virgin births either! There have also been some changes to the SPFX of the film itself such as Lord Sidious' face has been darkened under his cloak so that you cannot tell as easily that he is Ian McDiarmid. There is an alternate title and crawl, and the Federation is much much more sinister in this version.

Re-Edit runs 1:57.06 and features 23 chapters is encoded in MPEG2 VBR and has an average bit rate of 4.75 MBps - the audio is re-mastered Dolby Digital 5.1 (448Kbps) , contains most of the deleted scenes, some alternate music, a completely different edit on the pod race, Anakin is quieter and darker, aliens speak in foreign languages and are subtitled – all the subtitles can be turned of as well (but you lose the new story line)

You can contact the editor at - magnoliafan78@hotmail.com


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Star Wars: Episode II - The Clone War - MagnoliaFan Edition

Re-Edit runs 2 hours 14 min. Once again, a lot of changes for performance and pacing have been done - similar but not as drastic as the IMAX cut. Jango's first scene with Zam is cut to add more mystery to her appearance. Several of the love scenes have been trimmed or cut. In their place are several deleted scenes. Anakin is again trimmed to be quieter, darker and less whiny. The Mace/Obi-Wan hanger scene is in the film and the Obi-Wan/Yoda/Mace Temple scene is out. There is implication that the Separatists are the rebel alliance from the original trilogy, from a certain point of view. Also, it is not implied that Dooku is a Sith in this version. He appears to be a tragic character, the only one who knows the truth, but no one will listen to him. He has a yellow lightsaber blade as well.


Watched both and thought both were VAST improvements. What a difference a few little edits made to thse flicks.

--FW
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Posted 24 September 2004 - 11:58 AM

I'm intrigued. I'd like to check these things out myself. Thanks for the heads up on these, Ferris.
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Posted 24 September 2004 - 12:45 PM

Sounds interesting, I'll be checking them out sometime tomorrow. Right now I'm really sleepy and need to snooze for the night.
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Posted 24 September 2004 - 03:55 PM

Glad somebody else heard the vader breath after the credits. (as my credibility has been questionable lately)

Is there a clean link to where to purchase the same set you did, Ferris?
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Posted 24 September 2004 - 04:36 PM

QUOTE (Despondent @ Sep 24 2004, 03:55 PM)
Glad somebody else heard the vader breath after the credits. (as my credibility has been questionable lately)

Is there a clean link to where to purchase the same set you did, Ferris?

--FW

Your best bet is to e-mail these two people:

rikter_blaksvn@yahoo.com (Provided the Magfan edits)
tr47@burntmail.com (Provided the 8-disc set of the trilogy)

They have both been incredibly helpful and friendly, mad props to both.

--FW
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Posted 26 September 2004 - 04:25 AM

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I also bought:
*Star Wars, Episode I: Balance of the Force (magnoliafan edit widescreen)
*Star Wars, Episode II: The Clone Wars (magnoliafan edit widescreen)
*Bonus disc for that

$24.00 for all of this


they charged you $24 for it? is anyone else a bit disturbed by that? did they say why they were charging so much for something that cost them nothing to make?
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Posted 26 September 2004 - 08:50 AM

These are fan edits, Jariten. It was probably one guy doing all the work himself. I'd say that the price is very reasonable considering all the man hours that would have been put into it.

I may be wrong - maybe it was easy. But I reckon that making all the scene changes smooth and retiming the music and sound effects, dubbing new dialogue etc would be a very time consuming task.

$24.00? Sounds like a very nice price to me.
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Posted 26 September 2004 - 08:50 PM

QUOTE (barend @ Sep 23 2004, 10:14 PM)
*Star Wars, Episode I: Balance of the Force (magnoliafan edit widescreen)
*Star Wars, Episode II: The Clone Wars (magnoliafan edit widescreen)
*Bonus disc for that


what's that????

From what I understand they're fan made edits of the prequels which make them suck a bit less.
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Posted 26 September 2004 - 08:55 PM

Abstinence sucks less, most. But it would be nice to have an in-between. wink.gif
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Posted 27 September 2004 - 10:25 AM

QUOTE (jariten @ Sep 26 2004, 04:25 AM)
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I also bought:
*Star Wars, Episode I: Balance of the Force (magnoliafan edit widescreen)
*Star Wars, Episode II: The Clone Wars (magnoliafan edit widescreen)
*Bonus disc for that

$24.00 for all of this


they charged you $24 for it? is anyone else a bit disturbed by that? did they say why they were charging so much for something that cost them nothing to make?

I bought the deluxe ($9.50/pc), which includes cases and covers and disc art. You can buy the others for less ($4.00/pc). All orders will require $5.00 s&h. So I could have bought the discs for $13.00 (with shipping) instead, but I wanted the deluxe.

As a matter of fact, Rik has a bunch of stuff for sale.

Oh, and the edits take the shitty films I would have given a 1 or 2 star rating and improve it to at least a 3 and probably a 4.

--FW
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Posted 27 September 2004 - 11:02 AM

Editing does make a huge difference to a film. I made my own low quality AVI edit of Return of the Jedi once, cutting out all the stupid stuff in it. It ended up being about 40 minutes long instead of over two hours. I showed to a friend of mine in Japan and he was just blown away. I even blew myself away with that one.
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