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More Lucas... Quotes from an interview about the DVD's

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Posted 16 September 2004 - 10:07 PM

he just told us to get fucked!

like someone says here have some icecream. you love it when you taste a bit, but then they take it away, take a big steamy dump on it, and give it back saying: this is the only way you'll ever have ice cream again

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Posted 17 September 2004 - 09:54 AM

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The special edition, that's the one I wanted out there. The other movie, it's on VHS, if anybody wants it. ... I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn't really exist anymore.


I've got something for George to consider - if he doesn't want to spend the money on transferring the untainted versions to DVD and he doesn't think they really exist, then why doesn't he give the rights to these films over to Fox Studios... and they can make the DVDs for these films?

In addition to this, George, if you don't think the original films exist anymore, then I'd say they're public property.
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Posted 17 September 2004 - 07:50 PM

I am definitely seconding JYAMG's idea here...guys, Lucas can do what he wants with the PT. It's his baby, let him do it.

But between the Internet, the growing popularity of "consumer cinema" (movies created by non-professional groups for "consumption", not for profit), and the love that everyone has for these movies, I say that the Star Wars universe is free reign for everyone now.

Make your own Star Wars movie! People have been doing it for years! Drop the forests of Endor and the dunes of Tattooine! Explore your own planets!

This is our time now, guys, this is the time when fans and filmmakers can get together to play in this big universe. If Lucas wants to do his own version of Star Wars, that's fine. But it's fair game for us, too.
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Posted 17 September 2004 - 08:16 PM

ah, just like Hitler...

if he had died before his 'true vision' got out he would have died a hero!
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Posted 18 September 2004 - 11:11 PM

I know Lucas has been saying these things for years now, but it's been in off-hand, not-entirely pieced together way. Now, it is all boiled down and concentrated in one interview. The man is being an insufferable prick. He may not think so, but he IS!!

My hate for his has grown as well. I keep saying I'll give up on SW, and I keep coming back and coming back checking out all these forums, virtually punishing myself. Lucas is doing a good job to turn me away...
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Posted 19 September 2004 - 03:25 AM

well but like all interviews it would have been heavily edited, with the interviewer taking whatever slant he/she feels would make good copy.

Lucas reacts strongly to the crits because he feels and cares strongly for his work. he does come across rather dismissive and flippant at one point in the interview, the "im sorry if you fell in love with something thats half finished" or whatever, but the sad but true fact is that no one owns these films, or has any right to them but Lucas. as the audience we can accept or refuse, balk at or choose to consume whatever the artist gives us, but that doesnt mean we have any power over the product. that right belongs to the artist, and the artist alone.
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Posted 19 September 2004 - 08:07 AM

You are wrong, Jariten. The right to do what Lucas is doing does not belong to "the artist" alone. It belongs to whoever holds the rights to the films. This only rarely is "the artist." Usually it is the studio, or, whoever owns the studio. Thus, Ted Turner, owner of the MGM library, was perfectly within his rights to colorize all his old B&W MGM films and "the artists" could say nothing about it.
Lucas has a rare deal. And, no doubt, he has the legal right to do what he's doing.
And if the Southern Baptists were ever tsomehow to purchase the rights to the Star Wars trilogy, they would be perfectly within their rights to digitally change the discussions about the Force into the need to be washed in the blood of Jesus and even insert Jesus's spirit into the Jedi ghost scene at the RotJ. And they also would be within their rights to burn every last master of the original. Would you in that case, still be getting all mushy for the rights of filmright holders, Jariten?
NO ONE questions Lucas's legal right to do this. And the only relevance to Lucas being an "artist" is that criticism comes with the territory. Lucas can create (or recreate) and the public will critique.
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Posted 19 September 2004 - 08:13 AM

i side with the creator. if he wants to change the films that he sired, thats his perogative. if some random third party somehow got hold of the rights to SW and effectivly destroyed it (to use your rather OTT example) no of course i`d hate it, but who wouldnt?. Lucas does have a rare deal- full artistic control. i was just defending his right to use it.
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Posted 19 September 2004 - 10:09 PM

just as long as you don't refer to him as an artist...

a true artsist releases his/her work and damns the consequences!
they do not constantly alter their work in a pathetic attempt to youthen it... aging of art is what makes it great... and this was something that was aging smoothly.

Lucase is not a ARTIST!
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Posted 19 September 2004 - 11:30 PM

[COLOR=red][SIZE=14]MR LUCAS ALL I CAN SAY IS...FUCK YOU ASSHOLE...I WONT SPEND A RED CENT ON YOUR SHIT AND I JUST THREW AWAY ALL REMAING STAR WARS BULLSHIT...AGAIN FUCK YOU...HOPE 'SITH" TANKS YOU BLOATED FUCK !
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Posted 19 September 2004 - 11:44 PM

YAY!!! another brother in arms!!!

FSW!
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Posted 19 September 2004 - 11:56 PM

yippie!
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Posted 20 September 2004 - 12:22 AM

um okay...
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Posted 20 September 2004 - 02:16 PM

This has been said before, but Lucas went to film school, and at some point in his class on "The Auteur Theory and the Films of John Ford" or some such shit he became convinced that one person alone is responsible for any film. That all those names that roll by for six minutes after you're done watching the story are just hired hands who offered literally zero input to the realization of the piece. So, years later, this one guy can revisit the thing with a load of other hired hands and change it all, and loudly proclaim the right.

It's wrong, and you know what? The fact that Lucas has to ride his high horse every other week or so and the fact that reporters keep asking him about it and twisting his quotes all to make him look bad pretty much indicates this to me: Lucas knows it's wrong, the reporters know it's wrong, and we all know it's wrong, on a gut level. It s fundamentally insulting and offensive to the set designers and the carpenters and the storyboard artists and the conceptual artists and puppeteers and hell, even the publicists and film distributors, to pretend this is akin to a painting or a novel and that it is the work of the guy who happens to have the legal ownership of the thing.

Lucas owns the thing; he can do with it as he pleases. That is his legal right, and if he wants to tiptoe onto his soapbox about the legal rights of a media mogul, then I will defend him with my back teeth. But he's talking about his rights as an artist, and essentially flipping the bird to all the other artists who worked on the film on the day. He's not worried about their rights.

So I say fuck him for that.
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Posted 20 September 2004 - 04:49 PM

and honestly how can anyone defend THAT!!!!??????

I'm talkin to you Jar....
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