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‘Batman’ held for scaling Buckingham Palace wall Tuesday, September 14, 2004

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Posted 14 September 2004 - 07:37 AM

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‘Batman’ held for scaling Buckingham Palace wall
Fathers' rights protester spends
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Updated: 3:25 p.m. ET Sept. 13, 2004


LONDON - Holy intruder! A protester dressed in a Batman costume scaled the front wall of Buckingham Palace on Monday and perched for more than five hours on a ledge near the balcony where the royal family appears on ceremonial occasions.

The protester’s success in climbing the wall in front of the queen’s main residence prompted fresh questions about the much-criticized and recently overhauled royal security operation.



“It’s not good enough and we want to know how this happened,” Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir John Stevens told British Broadcasting Corp. radio.

Two police officers in a cherry-picker crane removed the protester, Jason Hatch, from the ledge at about 7:15 p.m., 5½ hours after he climbed up. His Batman mask removed and a white helmet placed on his head, he waved and clapped as the crane lowered him to the ground.

Hatch, 33, from Gloucester, is a member of the Fathers 4 Justice group, which is campaigning for greater custody rights for divorced or separated fathers and has staged a number of prominent stunts to promote their cause.

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No member of the royal family was at the palace Monday. Queen Elizabeth II was at her Balmoral residence in Scotland.

Still, police were stung by the apparent ease with which Hatch climbed up to his perch. Asked if the breach was embarrassing for authorities, Stevens replied, “There’s no doubt it is. I’ve asked for a full report as soon as possible on my desk tomorrow morning. We’ve got to resolve the situation.”

Police tried to talk Hatch as he stood for hours above a banner bearing the words “Superdads of Fathers 4 Justice, Fighting for Your Right to See Your Kid.”

Fathers 4 Justice members said Hatch and an accomplice dressed as Batman’s partner, Robin, had climbed a palace perimeter fence while fellow protesters distracted police by creating a disturbance at the palace’s front gate.

Matt O’Connor, the group’s spokesman, said Hatch and the man in the Robin costume, Dave Pyke, used an extendable aluminum ladder to climb the side of the palace to the balcony.

Pyke said he came down when he’d gotten halfway up the ladder because a police officer threatened to shoot him, but no one detained him and he walked away. Police apprehended him later. He said it had been “unbelievably easy” to breach security.

‘If we can get in there, anybody can’
“We are totally untrained; we are just ordinary guys. If we can get in there, anybody can,” he said.

O’Connor said the protest was timed to coincide with Monday’s trial of another group member, Patrick Ronald Davis, 48, who is accused of throwing purple flour at Prime Minister Tony Blair in the House of Commons in May. That incident sparked a security alert, and new restrictions on public access to the chamber.

On Saturday, another member of the group who dressed as Spider-man climbed atop the 137-meter London Eye Ferris wheel beside the River Thames.

In another headline-grabbing stunt, one of the group’s members spent five days atop a 120-foot crane beside London’s Tower Bridge to call attention to the group’s cause.

A government-commissioned report had warned in May that terrorists could exploit lax security that allowed a tabloid reporter to join the royal staff. In response, Buckingham Palace created a new position of security director.

Officials were embarrassed on the eve of a state visit by President Bush in November when Daily Mirror reporter Ryan Parry revealed he had been hired by the palace even though he gave false references.

Parry’s stories, which included details about the queen’s breakfast tastes and photos of a rubber duck in the royal bath, were picked up by media worldwide.

Osama look-alike crashed prince's party
An earlier royal embarrassment came in June 2003 when a comedian dressed as Osama bin Laden crashed Prince William’s 21st birthday party at Windsor Castle, kissing the prince on both cheeks.

“This is another embarrassing breakdown in security at the palace,” Mark Oaten, law enforcement issues spokesman for the opposition Liberal Democrat party, said of Monday’s episode. “After so many episodes like this, there must be serious questions asked over the ability of our authorities to protect the royal family.”

Darryl Westell, another Fathers 4 Justice activist, said Hatch had not been able to see his two children for four years even though he lived only a short walk away from them.

“Not seeing your children is worse than being put in prison,” Pyke said.

Blair’s spokesman said, “We don’t believe that events like this actually help address what is the complexity of the problem.”

http://www.msnbc.msn...89111/?GT1=5100


1.) No sort of cool protests like this ever happen in the US.

2.) I was reading an article in Wired this month about how old-style protests are not effective. I guess they were right.

3.) "Fathers 4 Justice" sounds like the coolest name for a group ever! I want to have a kid quickly so I can join!

4.) I find it amusing how authorities never seem to have any sense of humor about something like this happening. Don't they realize it's hilarious?
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Posted 14 September 2004 - 08:26 AM

This kind of thing seems to happen about once every six months. It's a good thing most people in Britain don't have very strong feelings about the monarchy, or else one of them would probably have been assassinated by now.
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Post icon  Posted 14 September 2004 - 09:59 AM

laugh.gif These guys are awesome.
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Posted 14 September 2004 - 10:17 AM

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The protester’s success in climbing the wall in front of the queen’s main residence prompted fresh questions about the much-criticized and recently overhauled royal security operation.


It's Batman for crying out loud. You can't expect your everyday Royal Security to do diddly-squat against Batman.
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Posted 14 September 2004 - 10:22 AM

And also...

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Pyke said he came down when he’d gotten halfway up the ladder because a police officer threatened to shoot him, but no one detained him and he walked away.


I don't know about over yonder, but here in the states there has to be evidence that the criminal is armed before you can pull on gun on him/her.

Plus a good old fashion martyr would have really helped their cause.
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Posted 14 September 2004 - 11:02 AM

they got on the daily show. bet that helps the cause a bit wink.gif
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Post icon  Posted 14 September 2004 - 11:11 AM

Hmm, hope dad recorded that one. I'll have to watch it tonight. smile.gif
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Posted 14 September 2004 - 11:14 AM

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I don't know about over yonder, but here in the states there has to be evidence that the criminal is armed before you can pull on gun on him/her.

I don't know if you're right about that. I think that breaching security in certainlocations is considered dangerous. Like is you say "gimme all your money" in a bank, but have no apparent gun, the cops won't shoot you. But say you start running up the White House lawn toward the office of the President. I think they can shoot you even if you're naked.
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Posted 14 September 2004 - 03:07 PM

i thought police in england didnt have guns? or is this Royal Guard or something
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Posted 14 September 2004 - 03:15 PM

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i thought police in england didnt have guns? or is this Royal Guard or something

Under normal circumstances they don't, but armed police can be brought in in certain situations. Or maybe he was just bluffing.
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Posted 14 September 2004 - 04:06 PM

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they got on the daily show.

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Posted 14 September 2004 - 09:28 PM

Yahtzee wrote something funnier about it then what was on The Daily Show.

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...but say you start running up the White House lawn toward the office of the President. I think they can shoot you even if you're naked.

But I can't decide which would be funnier!

I suppose Batman breaking into Buckingham Palace is funnier, for creativity and the fact that it actually happened.

also...
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1.) No sort of cool protests like this ever happen in the US.

That's because designating a field of grass for protesting on really takes the fun out and removes thoughts on location.

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Posted 15 September 2004 - 07:03 PM

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No member of the royal family was at the palace Monday. Queen Elizabeth II was at her Balmoral residence in Scotland.

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Posted 16 September 2004 - 11:03 AM

When I worked at Wal-Mart, a guy (no idea who he was) came into our Dept. dressed as Batman. He kept following me and my work-mate around, then he'd just stop, put his hands on his waist, and stand there. That's all he would do!

And if people asked him who he was, he'd reply "I'm Batman."

He was removed by the store manager after 30 min.
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