[Chefelf]

"The Passion of the Clerks"

By Liza Foreman

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - Filmmaker Kevin Smith is set to direct his own screenplay of "The Passion of the Clerks," a sequel to his first film, 1994's "Clerks."

  The sequel was written for the stars of the original film, Brian O'Halloran and Jeff Anderson. Smith also will make an appearance with longtime sidekick Jason Mewes. The story follows the Quik Stop convenience store employees of the original "Clerks" 10 years later. Principal photography is set to begin in January. Miramax Films will distribute.

"After working on the 'Clerks' 10th-anniversary DVD for the better part of the last year, I fell in love with the characters all over again," Smith said. "The whole process reminded me why I got into the film business in the first place: to make talky, low-budget comedies. So I wrote this script about the older and not-so wiser Dante and Randal, as they try to deal with a decade of further disillusionment, even less sex and eroding pop culture."

http://www.viewaskew...ws/aug04/3.html

I thought Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back was going to be the last Jay & Silent Bob movie. Is this going to be like Ozzy's "final album" or his "farewell tour"?

[civilian_number_two]

Kevin Smith is a bad joke that is too long in the telling.

I don't get why he is a celebrity.

At least the folks who made THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT had the decency to fade into obscurity; this guy just keeps going with his not-funny garbage. I mean come on! DOGMA? "Oh it's so daring, because God is a woman...." Bullshit! It has a monster made out of poo! It's too stupid to be blasphemous! Gaaaaaaaahhhh!

[Heccubus]

Kevin Smith is a bad joke that is too long in the telling.

I don't get why he is a celebrity.

At least the folks who made THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT had the decency to fade into obscurity; this guy just keeps going with his not-funny garbage. I mean come on! DOGMA? "Oh it's so daring, because God is a woman...." Bullshit! It has a monster made out of poo! It's too stupid to be blasphemous! Gaaaaaaaahhhh!

I've never liked Kevin Smith. All of my friends seem to think I'm some sort of alien because of it. I mean...he's not funny.


At all.






Ever.

[Mike Mac from NYU]

Kevin Smith is a bad joke that is too long in the telling.

I don't get why he is a celebrity.

At least the folks who made THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT had the decency to fade into obscurity; this guy just keeps going with his not-funny garbage. I mean come on! DOGMA? "Oh it's so daring, because God is a woman...." Bullshit! It has a monster made out of poo! It's too stupid to be blasphemous! Gaaaaaaaahhhh!

Doesn't really take much to set you off does it, civilian.

Damn!!! Even for all the Return of the Jedi battles we had, I never seen you act this way.

I hope you didn;t destroy your PC, after that rant!!!!!!

Or are you a Mac user??!!!



Oh, yeah. regarding Kevin Smith....

Actually met the guy once.....seemed a decent fellow.

I can see how he turns people off, the same way Michael Moore does..




Well you have to give him credit for been witty!! Don't you ???





Oh, NO,!!!!!! ........Now I 've done it!!!!!!!

civilian two's going on a rampage!!! LOOK OUT!!

Hide the women!!!!!!!!

This post has been edited by Mike Mac from NYU: 02 September 2004 - 02:44 PM

[Jane Sherwood]

Excuse me for being the only one who says "Yay!" to this news. I like Kevin Smith's movies...except Chasing Amy, which I never really saw except for the scene where Silent Bob's telling the Amy story, and I don't really want to even bother with Jersey Girl...

But otherwise, I love them, and this news makes me happy. If the title itself can give me a laugh, then it's fine by me.




...Also, I just have to say "Yay!" for anything with Jay and Silent Bob. I don't care what the hell any of you guys say. (*crosses her arms and glares pointedly at civilian*)

[Stongbah]

I don't know what I'm talking about, having only seen Dogma and Jay and Silent Bob Strick Back, and enjoying them both. However, when a film's name is a parody of another film, it can't be good.

[Heccubus]

I don't know what I'm talking about, having only seen Dogma and Jay and Silent Bob Strick Back, and enjoying them both. However, when a film's name is a parody of another film, it can't be good.

You made a point, and then destroyed it all in the same comment. "Jay And Silent Bob" is a parody, and yet you claim to enjoy it. In the next sentence you state that if a movie's title is a parody, it can't be good. Which is it?

[Chefelf]

I think Kevin Smith bounces back and forth between good and bad far too often. His movies have their moments but Jay & Silent Bob was terrible. The over-the-top references to past movies and winking into the camera was just out of control. It had a lot of funny moments mostly due to the stellar work of Jason Mewes at playing that character to a tee. Like that character or not, we have all met people like that and Mewes does a great job of playing that character.

I can't say I'm too excited about the new Clerks movie. I'll probably see it but my expectations are low.

[Jen]

The first time I saw Clerks I loved it, loved it, loved it. However, I saw it again a few months ago, and it didn't really hold up to my memories of it. I feel the same way about Swingers: When I first saw it it seemed really fresh and different and I adored it. Seeing it again five years later, it had lost a lot of its lustre. (Note: I think Swingers held up better than Clerks.)

As far as the title goes, I'll give you, it's funny. But the problem with naming movies after other, recently-released films is that the reference loses it's associations and often it's validity (and humour) as time passes ... Will The Passion of the Clerks make you smile, groan, or just look puzzled in 5 years? (Well, I have to say, it's funny as a concept even without the Mel Gibson reference. But still. I just don't know.)

EDIT: I screwed up my italics tags. All better now!

This post has been edited by Jen: 03 September 2004 - 12:05 PM

[Vwing]

I've actually only seen Dogma (and the end of Mallrats), and really liked it. I've been told I'd like his other movies as well, but I really can't comment on this. I'll have to go out and rent Clerks I guess, if just to comment on this post .

[civilian_number_two]

Jesus Mike, you gotta relax.

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I think Michael Moore turns people off by stating strong opinions that they disagree with, and by using mismatched and frequently falsified film clips to make points that may actually be exaggerated if not all-out libelous. In his own yellow journalist way, he's doing his part to use film to try to change the world. God bless him.

Kevin Smith is just a comedian; he's not trying to change the world. I think he turns poeple off with his poor composition and next-to-none blocking (everyone in a line; look right at the camera), and his humour does lean to the sophomoric. His tendency to put himself into nearly all of his films, when he knows he can't act and the Silent Bob character is worthless, is just pandering to the set of folks out there that like it. Great; I'd do the same, if some dumb joke I'd made in my 27000 movie turned me into a millionaire. God bless him. I just don't get it. So it's not Kevin Smith I have a problem with (thumbs nose, stares at Jane in her floppy hat).

For the record, I laughed as much as the next guy when I saw CLERKS the first time, before Miramx bought it and added the pop soundtrack (they made it better). But no, it's not witty. You can't quote any of it. The only repeatable bit in the whole film, the only bit you could take elsewhere and start a conversation with, is Randall's bit about RETURN OF THE JEDI and the contractors on the Death Star. Seriously, I laughed a lot when I saw it, but it's mostly just gross-out humour. Anyone can have a sequence where a guy reads off a list of fake porn titles or someone has sex with a corpse. These scenes write themselves.

I myself never met Kevin Smith, but I ran into his pal Jason Mewes at the VIFF one year, and his coproducer Chris Mosier when to school with a buddy of mine. So I'm not sweating it either.

I think the strength of Jason Mewes's acting is that he actually is that guy in real life. I mean seriously. Except for actually selling drugs and eating handfuls of sugar to stay buzzed. Apart from that, he is that guy.

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Naturally, I agree with everything Jen said about parody titles. They have such a short shelf-life, they should be reserved for SNL skits, not films that can't possibly come out when they might be relevant or funny (which would be immediately).

I also agree that SWINGERS has a longer shelf life. I still love it, probably more than Jen does, but I never got why so many other people did. It's a lot of fun, but it was embraced by the same crowd that loved AMERICAN PIE? What happened?

[Mike Mac from NYU]

Jesus Mike, you gotta relax.

I, have to relax???????????!!!!!!!!!


Man, civilian that's the funniest material I've heard from you yet!!!!!!!

You're a master comedien.

This post has been edited by Mike Mac from NYU: 03 September 2004 - 03:13 PM

[Mike Mac from NYU]

Civ.


I think you need to reread you own points.


I think you just made a 180 degree turn in your viewpoint. Not to mention you overall tone of writing.

[civilian_number_two]

"Doesn't really take much to set you off does it, civilian.

Damn!!! Even for all the Return of the Jedi battles we had, I never seen you act this way.

I hope you didn;t destroy your PC, after that rant!!!!!!

Or are you a Mac user??!!! "



All I'm saying Mike, is you tend to get personal. I don't know why. Reread your own posts why don't you. It's like you have a personal stake in it or something. Jesus.

Drop that shit and discuss the topic.

WHEN, and HOW, do I turn 180 degrees from "I don't get the popularity of CLERKS; I don't get why Kevin Smith is a celebrity," to "Like everyone, I laughed at the sophomoric toilet humour of CLERKS, the first time I saw it?"

I really don't think you can make the claim that I ever say CLERKS is good or witty or worth remaking five times or coming back to with a sequel.

This post has been edited by civilian_number_two: 03 September 2004 - 09:37 PM

[Heccubus]

Let's not turn this into another battle. One person likes Smith, one doesn't. Now get off of it.