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Posted 08 December 2003 - 04:34 AM

QUOTE (rogue_scholar @ Dec 5 2003, 10:59 AM)
BTW, has anyone heard whether or not there is going to be a Batman: Year One movie made? The last I heard Darren Aronofsky (Pi, Requeim for a Dream) was trying to get the rights to make it. He wanted Brad Pitt to play the part of young Batman/Bruce Wayne. Anyone?


If there's to be a YEAR ONE movie then Aronofsky will not likely be making it. The latest news is that he wll be working on adaptations of the novel GLITTER and the manga (and film) series LONE WOLF AND CUB.

Chris Nolan (MEMENTO) will be directing the next BATMAN film, with Christian Bale as star (good choice). I have no idea who else is signed, or who the villain(s) will be, but its screenwriter also worked on the BLADE series. So it will probably suck.
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Posted 08 December 2003 - 05:08 AM

QUOTE (Vwing @ Dec 3 2003, 03:47 PM)
??????? You guys didn't like First Contact? That's probably my favorite of the Star Trek movies, along with Undiscovered Country. I can't believe that. And even SW cannot be compared to BG it's not that bad.


FIRST CONTACT has all sorts of good elements. There's fine action involving Enterprise crew vs Borg drones. There's a nice little bit of business with Picard and his emotional involvement with the Borg conflict, given his personal history. There's some fun where the Borg leader (??? aren't they supposed to have a hive consciousness ??? couldn't the writers have at least TRIED ???) turns out to be a sexy female humanoid (what else?) wearing a skin-tight outfit (what else?) and she tries to seduce Data ....

yawn. Add to which Picard has to talk about his feelings with a brand new Angela Basset character, when it would have made perfect sense, for story as well as character, for him to have such a conversation with his closest friend on the ship, Dr Crusher. When, as a spectator, you can actually *see* the conversation where the writers are asked to create a role for a black actor then you know there's trouble. Besides, we already have Worf and Jordi.

The absolute worst part of that film, of course, is that the action plot is so thin they had to throw in a B story about a post-apocalypse Earth scientist who drinks a lot of cheap booze and listens to rock and roll on a 1950s Wurlitzer jukebox.

FIRST CONTACT is embarrassing, but is without question the best Next Generation film.

Like everyone else, I will say that my favorite STAR TREK film is WRATH OF KHAN. After that, I suppose it's THE UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY. As for every other Trek film, and I've seen them all, it's a matter of which is least bad, because they are all disappointing.
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Posted 08 December 2003 - 10:32 AM

I liked the first star trek movie. It is so old and campy. The uniforms, and Bones' breard at the beggining of the film. And what about that 17 hr floating through space scene where Spock and Kirk are just traveling around a poor display of water colors.
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Posted 09 December 2003 - 11:33 AM

saw some of the galactica last night, but have the rest on tape. Well, they certainly made up for the lack of sexual energy in the SW films!

but I can't say I was disappointed. (not with the sex I mean, let me start over.) I just wasn't expecting much. this topic is a little tongue in cheek. (did see a lot of tongue last night...)

seriously, this serves as a lesson to sw fans. don't build up expectation and you won't be let down. how's that go? fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me...





SW fans who've religiously attended opening day/weekend ought to boycott early attendance and encourage others to do so. Like we're in a hurry to waste our money?
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Posted 09 December 2003 - 06:29 PM

saw Galactica last night too. fell asleep. gonna try tonight and hope I don't fall asleep again.
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Posted 09 December 2003 - 08:32 PM

laugh.gif I fell asleep too! about 30 mins in or so. (I didn't want to offer that initially!)
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Posted 10 December 2003 - 10:33 AM

QUOTE (Despondent @ Dec 9 2003, 08:32 PM)
laugh.gif I fell asleep too! about 30 mins in or so.

Wow! I guess I didn't miss much then huh? Tell me something, what's the storyline for this one (besides horny Cylons, which a friend of mine told me he heard about before it aired).

Also, did anyone catch the Battlestar Galactica documentary that came on at 5 am on December 8th? I forgot to set my VCR to record it, I'm wondering if it was any good? The TV guide made it sound kind of interesting.
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Posted 10 December 2003 - 11:21 AM

I don't know about the plot. they keep airing new damn episodes and I can't keep up. Still haven't reviewed Mondays show so i guess I'll let this thing slip away from earth like so many unheard radio signals. I just wasn't prepared for a miniseries. too much going on this time of year- sorry if I disappointed anyone.
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Posted 12 December 2003 - 12:27 AM

"hey, this isn't so bad"

into episode two now of the BG show, and for cable tv, I think it's ok. see, the cylons pervaded the computer systems (think Independance Day, and Phantom Menace. but because PM is a prequel and took place long ago I guess noone can say lucas stole from ID4 the idea of an army's downfall by destroying their cyber source) and the good guys have to revert back to their old mothballed, museum-piece vipers. and they call them planes, is that crazy or what? sorry for the good attitude but hey, it's christmas. haven't seen that awful dog-bot yet (remember him?) but cute kid factor is high.

slow going at first, with all the sex scenes and all. I had a feeling the cylons might appear as humans, but the giveaway should have been the red up and down glow coming from the lady's spine as she went for a ride the other night with this ismay character. (like I said, I was falling asleep) red glow, back and forth, cylon trait... duh. anyway, she learned all the security systems/protocol and that's what's led to the demise of human civilization (again). it's great because they have a history to build on and it's not just making up stuff to tie it together. (unless you consider the original BG "crap"; then the similarities continue) Anyway, the human/genius cylon-love-slave who sinks humanity somehow gets on a "rescue" craft and she's (infiltrating cylon) tied to him with a chip where he hallucinates and she knows what he's up to but noone knows they owe their sorry, collapsed, fugitive state to him. not so bad. help me I'm delusional. the christmas cards are almost downhill but the mindless background noise is a lot more interesting than AOTC. I'm just taking a break to chime in... Not as bad as AOTC. smile.gif
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