Why I like the prequels (part one- TPM)
#47
Posted 27 August 2004 - 05:40 AM
And I second what Helena said. Jariten, skim through the pages of this forum. Somewhere there's a thread called "The Prequels According To Us" where a few of us posted alternative suggestions. Have a look.
You may not think our ideas are much but we may not care.
This post has been edited by Just your average movie goer: 27 August 2004 - 05:41 AM
#48
Posted 27 August 2004 - 05:43 AM
Edit: Ah, JYAMG beat me to it.
This post has been edited by Helena: 27 August 2004 - 05:43 AM
- J m HofMarN on the Sand People
#50
Posted 27 August 2004 - 11:23 AM
Ok., perhaps I have misunderstood you, but to me some issues in Prequels have only one possible and plausible solution. Consider:
Leia to Obi-Wan: “General Kenobi, you fought for my father in Clone Wars”
The only one possible implication: Obi-Wan Kenobi was a general who fought for Leia’s father, therefore Bail Organa should have been a great warrior himself, someone who commanded an army maybe. Instead, we got a guy who spoke one line and was played by Jimmy Smits “to diversify the cast” (Sorry, Mike, I meant no disrespect)
Obi-Wan to Yoda, concerning Luke : “Was I any different when you taught me?“
The only one possible implication: Yoda taught Obi-Wan, not Qui-Gon Jin, and Obi-Wan was reckless, impatient and whining, just like Luke. Instead, one of the first lines Obi-Wan speaks is “But Master Yoda said we should be mindful of the future” spoken in a tone of an insufferable know-it-all jerk.
And considering Qui-Gon Jin as a character. I have an example to you. A tells a story to B:
A: “I met once this terrific person, we fell in love and we had such a great relationship. And the sex that we had! It just rocked!”
B: “And?”
A:” And what?”
B: “And what happened next?”
A: “Nothing, we just went our separate ways and never saw each other again.”
Exciting story, isn’t it?(especially when we take the sex bit out, which was quite unnecessary). If you enjoyed it, then perhaps the story as follows is also appealing to you:
“There was once a great Jedi called Qui-Gon Jin. He was a very decet guy, very skilled in the way of the force, fought with enemy bravely and was a friend with great many people.”
“And?”
“And what?”
“And what happened next?”
“Nothing, he was just killed in a duel and was never mentioned or remembered by anyone”.
There was such a style of writing novels, in 19th century, I believe. It was called naturalism, when the main hero suddenly drops dead in the middle of the book, and nobody minds. These were hugely unpopular, so no small wonder nobody writes like that anymore, save very, very bad writers.
#51
Posted 27 August 2004 - 11:43 AM
- J m HofMarN on the Sand People
#52
Posted 27 August 2004 - 10:04 PM
This post has been edited by Sagacity: 27 August 2004 - 10:11 PM
#53
Posted 28 August 2004 - 01:02 AM
We were just trying to remind our friend Jariten that there are many other possibilities (and infinitely far better ones) for the prequels than the crap that Lucas handed us.
#54
Posted 28 August 2004 - 01:33 PM
while TPM is flawed, there are just too many things I like about it.
#56
Posted 28 August 2004 - 06:22 PM
Now, the stickler is trying to convince gushers what is Star Wars. Too many accept too many things as "Star Wars" and that ruins the meter by which we wish to measure this.
Example. Yoda silliness (in OT) vs. Jar Jar Silliness. Which is too much, what is an unacceptable level silliness before it throws Star Wars off kilter. ESB had just the right balance of what and who Yoda is and how much silliness can be tolerated. Plus, Yoda's acting silly was part of the plot, his character, to test look. While Jar Jar's silliness is... what? To appeal to a younger audience? Sigh. I think that tips into not-so-good Star Wars.
#57
Posted 28 August 2004 - 11:56 PM
Okay, you are pushing my patience here. What an extremely condescending and insulting comment. I've told you before, go to...
The Prequels According To Us
Have a look before you decide to flippantly dismiss all of our ideas.
#58
Posted 29 August 2004 - 12:49 AM
and i agree to this to an extent, as i mentioned in another thread there were times when JJ went too far and it damaged the reality of the film. but what Lucas did with him in AotC really redeemed the character a lot in my eyes.
ah, i see the "blah blah" bit of my earlier post comes across as quite dismissive and condecending. again, i didnt mean it, and i apologise.
This post has been edited by jariten: 29 August 2004 - 12:52 AM
#60
Posted 29 August 2004 - 06:18 AM
You mean the bit where he calls for Palpatine to be given emergency powers, thus helping to set up the conditions the fall of the Republic?
Sorry. I'll stop now.
- J m HofMarN on the Sand People