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Comics becoming movies Should they really be made?

#1 User is offline   ahdenno Icon

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Posted 06 August 2004 - 11:55 AM

I'm not the biggest fan of comics, but I've read alot and as seeing Spiderman, Hulk, Catwoman (which was never a comic), daredevil and punisher become movies. I wonder is it necessary to remake them.
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Posted 06 August 2004 - 12:16 PM

QUOTE (ahdenno @ Aug 6 2004, 12:55 PM)
Catwoman (which was never a comic)

It was, is, and probably will continue to be.

I don't think there's anything to be done about comic book movies. For the most part, they've had better luck than video game movies, and either way you look at it, people will get tired of them eventually. Once they stop making money, we won't see quite as many.
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Posted 06 August 2004 - 01:11 PM

I don't mind seeing as how most comic book movies are pretty good.
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Posted 07 August 2004 - 12:39 AM

I disagree, Stongbah. Aside from the first two Batman movies, Spiderman, and...well, that's it, most have been absolutely lousy. Daredevil had some awful visual effects, as well as a boring story, crappy acting, and lame dialogue. The Hulk was plagued with...well...I'm sure you've heard everyone complain about the CG put to use for it. Plus I wasn't a big fan of the story. And then there was those other Batman movies. Just to name a few.
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Posted 07 August 2004 - 01:09 AM

I liked the X-Men movies, as well as Blade 2. I hear Hell Boy is good, but I think it was only released here last Thursday.
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Posted 07 August 2004 - 02:41 AM

Ah yes, forgot about the X Men movies. The first was good, haven't seen the second though.
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Posted 07 August 2004 - 01:40 PM

Speaking of Catwoman, I've never been one to read comics or even really bother with anything of the sort, but I'm fairly certain she was a Batman villain, correct? From the ads, it looks more like she's one of the heros now. How or when did this happen?
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Post icon  Posted 07 August 2004 - 05:10 PM

Hellboy kind of bored me, but I suppose it would be good by a guy's standard. I watched it with Reiner. It was fun...I dunno...I'm not much of an action chick. I really liked the X-Men movies, because I like the whole cool abilities thing. Other comic based movies are tolerable to me because they have pretty male/female main characters. Hellboy is a mutant demony thing. Not exactly pretty. So you can see how I got bored with my small attention span. tongue.gif
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Posted 07 August 2004 - 05:33 PM

Hellboy Sucked.

The Punisher was rad, though.
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Posted 07 August 2004 - 09:58 PM

I hear they are going to make a "Watchmen" movie, one of my friends found this out somewhere on the internet. I'm not quite sure though.

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Posted 08 August 2004 - 10:26 AM

When WATCHMEN and THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS came out, they sold so crazy that the film rights got bought up immediately. Tim Burton's BATMAN was the end result of one deal, and he proved, with the help of his studio, that that comic book was absolutely unfilmable. They cut out the whole premise, changed the story, mixed in a bit of YEAR ONE and just enough camp to satisfy the fans of the tv series, and voila! One of the best comic book movies ever made, and nothing special.

I bought the screenplay to WATCHMEN when it slipped out of the studio and started making the rounds. Damn. It's terrible.

Best limited series comic ever written, and very nearly as close as comics get to real literature, to paraphrase that loveable hack Harlan Elison. Completely unfilmable.

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Examples: Liam Neeson is Dan Dreiberg, the second Night Owl. Demi Moore is Laurie, the second Silk Spectre. Tom Waits is Rorschach.

I won't finish my list so's not to spoil the fun.
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Posted 08 August 2004 - 06:25 PM

QUOTE (Jane Sherwood @ Aug 7 2004, 01:40 PM)
but I'm fairly certain she was a Batman villain, correct?

She was a Batman villian. From what I've heard, the name has almost nothing to do with the movie, and is just used to attract sales.
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Posted 08 August 2004 - 10:09 PM

the crow was cool....


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Posted 15 August 2004 - 02:58 AM

Tim Burton's BATMAN was the end result of one deal, and he proved, with the help of his studio, that that comic book was absolutely unfilmable.

I watched batman when I was young. I loved it, I became a fanatic of Batman related merchandise. The movie did it's job on me.

What did you not like about it? It's the best BM film out there, thats for sure.

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Posted 15 August 2004 - 10:51 AM

Jordan, I loved BATMAN. I like SPIDERMAN and X-MEN.

What I didn't like about BATMAN was the way everyone was going around saying that BATMAN redefined the hero, updated and darkened him from the 1966 movie and tv series and campy high-gadget comics "everyone remembered." It's like the entire critical community was in its late fifties, and hadn't read a Batman comic book 1971. Certainly they hadn't read "The Dark Knight Returns,' Frank Miller's groundbreaking graphic novel, nor his "Batman: Year One" series, both of which preceded the film by about five years and both of which were the sources (More "Dark Knight" than anything) of everything good in the movie.

Everyone loved the dramatic sequence where we see Batman's parents die. That was Frank Miller's writing there, right down to the pearl necklace. The business of making it the Joker who did the killing, which is frankly stupid, in all kinds of ways, is Sam Hamm. The propensity for violence, the reliance on intimidation and fear: that was at the heart of all Batman stuff, really, excepting the terrible tv series that all of the critics seemed to love so much. The reliance on silly gadgets, the business of actually sleeping upside down in a closet like a bat, that was Sam Hamm.

I didn't so much mind all the nonsense and the campy asides in BATMAN; it did bug me however that with these weaknesses it was nevertheless hailed as something of a superhero renaissance. It failed to address the issue of dumb comic relief in superhero movies; in fact what it did was open the door for the over-the-top silliness of all of its sequels.
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