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#31 User is offline   Mike Mac from NYU Icon

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Posted 22 July 2004 - 01:03 PM

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Interesting... but for the love of God, why would you use anything from George Lucas' prequel movies? You'd be much better off making your re-write with completely original ideas. I don't think there is anything worth salvaging from the prequel trilogy that George Lucas has given us so far.



I disagree! While the PT films for the most part are completely inept, Episode I, I still contend has some very good ideas and characters in it. The problem was that Episode I was a good idea, executed horribly.

1. Watto is still an intriguing character in Ep. 1 at least in concept he is. Forget about the visuals of the character but about the concept. The slave owner of the boy who would become Darth Vader. There's loads of potential in that concept. Imagine who much anger, injustice and ambivalence their must be between Anakin and Watto. Hell, Watto's ownership alone would be enough of a reason for Anakin's trip to the darkside.

2. Only my episode 1 follows Lucas model with several changes. My episode 2 is completetly different. Episode 2 has about only two good scenes in it, the rest is complete trash.
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Posted 22 July 2004 - 01:24 PM

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Interesting... but for the love of God, why would you use anything from George Lucas' prequel movies? You'd be much better off making your re-write with completely original ideas. I don't think there is anything worth salvaging from the prequel trilogy that George Lucas has given us so far.


To be truthful...I actually have two Episode I's I wrote!!! The first was one that I wrote way before Prequel Trilogies were announced. The second one follows Lucas Episode I outline.

The funny thing about these two versions is that they are interchangeable with the other episodes.

The original one I developed, Anakin is an expert fighter pilot in the Old Republic space navy. The story begins with a battle by the clone army in which they are attacking Alderaan. There is a scene where Anakin is aboard his ship "writing" a letter(?) to his family back on Tatooine, to his brother Owen Laars. He basically tells them not to worry about him, and that Owen needed to understand he had to do this, despite owen's protests about him leaving the moisture farm. In Anakin's words 'I'm sorry, I am not much of a farmer!" Anakin is theleader of his Z-95 Headhunter squadron aboard a Old Republic dreadnought. Anakin is the best pilot, in the navy and respected amongst his subordinates , but a lot of people wondered why he was so successfull at such a young age, how he survived all those hopeless battles. Anakin often wondered about those strange intuitions he felt when flying.

meanwhile the Battle is on, Anakin's squad goes into action in orbit above Alderaan. The space battle is intense. Anakin gives orders, {these scense will be interesting because, Anakin's manner in giving these orders, his cool and ruthfulness behind his flight mask while be startling similar to those of Darth Vader!! sad.gif }. The battle goes badly for the "Republicans" { no the bad guys aren't the Democrats!:lol: heh, heh}. The mother ship is completely destroyed by a torpedo. Anakin still gathers his troops in order to win the battle even though, the are without their ship. Suddenly Anakin, begins to feel a stranges sensation, he manages with the other fighters to destroy a battle cruiser. A major victory. Unfortunately the entire squadron is now destroyed, Anakin's the only fighter left. He crash lands after his R-2 unit {two guesses who that droid is rolleyes.gif } tells him the starboard engine is gone. Anakin has crashed landed on Alderaan. He manages to rescue his R-2 unit before the fighter is destroyed. Releieved at surviving, Anakin begins to establish an attatchment to his R-2 unit he saved. He looks at it's number which is R-217171910 and calls it Artoo for short and begins on a quest to find the runined castle of the King of Alderaan and get back into the war, meanwhile still perturbed at the starnge sensation he felt while in space.......


TO BE CONTINUED, eventually............I PROMISE
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Posted 22 July 2004 - 07:14 PM

Intriguing. We shall wait for your next installment with anticipation. I do like the bit about starting the movie off with a space battle (being Star Wars and all, something George Lucas forgot). Anakin already being a great pilot is a nice touch as well.
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Posted 23 July 2004 - 12:15 AM

You know one scene that could have actually worked in episode two was teh Yoda fight scene. I know a lot of people think this should not have been in existence but I think it could have been saved. The problem was that Yoda just kicked too much ass. I mean damn he was jumping off of walls and flipping out and attacking Dooku every which way but lose. Yoda should have been DEFENDING. Here's how the scene should have looked.

Obi Wan and Anakin fall and Yoda is left to defend them from the ruthless assaults of Arch Duke Doorus (I'd have changed the name, naturally) Doorus attacks wildly and Yoda calmly blocks his lightsaber swings before waving a hand and knocking him back, letting him escape to tend to the fallen Jedi. His escape dosn't matter however since he didnt have any plans or any such BS

You see, this works for Yoda's character and it would be an opportunity to see him kick ass. Yoda is the greatest Jedi master known to man. He should have fought more like Neo did in the end of the Matrix, not like Jackie Chan on crack.

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#35 User is offline   Mike Mac from NYU Icon

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Posted 23 July 2004 - 09:57 AM

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You know one scene that could have actually worked in episode two was teh Yoda fight scene. I know a lot of people think this should not have been in existence but I think it could have been saved. The problem was that Yoda just kicked too much ass. I mean damn he was jumping off of walls and flipping out and attacking Dooku every which way but lose. Yoda should have been DEFENDING. Here's how the scene should have looked.


The problem with the Yoda fight scene is

1. It took up too much movie time that could have spent explaining other more important topics in the trilogy

2. It was inconsistent with Yoda's personality in the OT. A guy that can move a spacecraft with his mind doesn't need a lightsaber. Yoda is BEYOND using a lightsaber.

3. It was gratuitously done. "Hey kids, let's watch little Yoda finally kick some ass!!"

Sorry, J The Yoda fight scene is unecessary dry.gif
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Posted 23 July 2004 - 11:16 AM

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Interesting... but for the love of God, why would you use anything from George Lucas' prequel movies?

What I would use from the Episode II is the scene when an assasination attempt is being made on Amidala and Anakin saves her. I would even use the bedroom scenery. For example, whever attacks Amidala, plants some device on her belly (I don't know how - somehow, and I do not know what it is, something explosive, that blows off after a few seconds). Now I like it from two reasons - first, it would be a nice way to show some of the actress renowned midriff not out of context (she is in her night clothes, so imagine a sexly two-piece number - I leave it to your imagination, guys wink.gif ).

Then, it would be a nice way to show Anakin's character and Amidala's ambiguous response. Imagine that he bursts into her bedroom. She does not recognise at first that she is in danger, she did not notice the thing that planted itself on her belly, but he did. He pulls the sheet, she is horrified at what he is doing, starts to scream, and then notices what is wrong. He tells her to lie still and uses some Jedi tricks to detach the bomb, at the same time smiling at her confusion and showing no fear, rather in a Han-like manner. When he manages to unpeel the thing, he holds Amidala close, again she protests, and he throws the bomb into the corner of the room, they roll on the floor and there is a big explosion. Then Bail Organa, her official fiance enters, saws the couple on the floor, has a big row with Amidala, who only then realisas that Anakin saved her life. There is tension and cofusion between the three young people.

Sorry for this tedious description - I am not good at technical details and plots but I would have liked such a scene. It would have saved Episode II for me.
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Posted 23 July 2004 - 05:10 PM

That's a scene with a lot of potential - it certainly sets up a very interesting premise for what follows in the film.
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Posted 24 July 2004 - 03:45 AM

Mike: Oh I never ever said it was necessary, don't get me wrong nothing in the PT was necessary except that Obi Wan Anakin Yoda and Amidala be in it. I'm just saying that it would have been cool to see Yoda using his powers in battle (with or without a lightsaber) had they not gone completely insane with the concept.

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