Hey, Just another wrethed fan, welcome to the forums! Great posts!
QUOTE (Just another wretched fan @ Jan 31 2005, 09:25 PM)
I just did a SW marathon this weekend to see if the dialogue in OT was as bad as NT and it was in parts. I realized that Luke was as annoyingly whiney as Anakin....BUT ITs STILL SO GOOD! WHY?
I agree, Luke was annoying. However, he was annoying in the Daniel-San/Rocky sort of way. The impatient student whose eagerness to learn their respective martial art is overwhelming their ability to learn. The master must therefore step in and curb that eagerness and teach restraint.
Anakin is just an angst-ridden idiot. He doesn't ever seem eager (or even interested) in learning the skills of the Jedi. He's just an uncontrollable, unfocused, reluctant student. It's unclear what his motivations are but he never seems all that interested in the ways of the Jedi. Obi-Wan never truly seems interested in teaching him either. Who can blame him?
QUOTE (Just another wretched fan @ Jan 31 2005, 09:25 PM)
I also noticed how neither ep1 or 2's duels involved dialogue. All 3 duels from the OT are dialogue heavy. With lines like "there is no conflict" "then my father is truly dead" So GL didn't come up with these lines? ROTJ was so wonderful it sent shivers down my spine like it always does. Who wrote Yoda's "Luminous beings are we..." and all those great quotes? GL apparently isn't capable now.
Exactly. ANH, ESB, ROTJ, The Princess Bride, etc. These are movies where great duels are accompanied by great dialogue. The relationship between the duelists is what drives the duel and makes it interesting. In TPM we are shown a much more complex and acrobatic duel that lacks the power of the previous three for the simple reason that there is no relationship. None. Darth Maul is just some silly-looking scary guy that looks evil so they fight with him. The only relationship is that he'd previously attacked Qui-Gon out of the blue on Tatooine. There is no dialogue. No character development. Just a lot of flipping around and impressive lightsaber work. Then Obi-Wan wins and the duel is over. Boring.
QUOTE (Just another wretched fan @ Jan 31 2005, 09:25 PM)
On paper ESB's "you like scoundrels" can seem as bad as the infamous AOTC "sand" dialogue but Harrison Ford pulled it off brilliantly.
I suppose you are right. Somehow the "scoundrel" bit is so much more convincing. Perhaps it is Harrison Ford's performance that makes this the case. I think moreso it is that Han Solo is sly, likable, charming and witty. Anakin is just creepy. Han solo delivers his "scoundrel" routine with a sideways smirk. Anakin delivers his "sand" bit with only his usual creepy angst.
QUOTE (Just another wretched fan @ Jan 31 2005, 09:55 PM)
In the Battle of Geonosis....why why why did the Clone Army choose to attack the stadium using "Revolutionary War" tactics. I mean....seriously. Shouldn't the Republic armada use space age technology to precision blast the tanks from orbit? Or couldn't space age bombers drop JDAMS in an air war instead of dropping all those ridiculous troopers down to get slaughtered? Does this have anything to do with General Yoda's military prowess? IF 30 JEDI COULD SNEAK INTO A FOOTBALL STADIUM OF 100,000 GEONOSIANS COULD A COUPLE OF CLONE S.E.A.L.S. (or jedi commandos) SABOTAGE THE FORCES FOR THE ASSAULT to prevent such a bloody battle?
The military tactics of the Republic are much like the tactics used by the Soviets in
Red Dawn, which is to say "idiotic".