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The 1990's not retro yet?

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 09:38 AM

I think sarcasm is a very robust and timeless form of humor.

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 03:26 PM

Seinfeld wasn't all about being sarcastic. It still holds up today. Other shows that had had its level of popularity you will find aged a lot more quickly. I can appreciate you didn't like it, but you can't say it was empirically of bad quality like you can say of say, Friends.
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Posted 26 January 2008 - 08:43 PM

I liked Becker. Funny and original.
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Posted 27 January 2008 - 01:43 AM

QUOTE (Heccubus @ Jan 26 2008, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
7-Up = lemonade? Uh...check your definition of lemonade. I think for something to be considered lemonade it has to actually contain SOME traces of lemons.

I thought somebody might have a go at this, but I didn't think it would be you, Hecc. You usually think before you speak. Oh well.
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Personally, I never found Siefeld in the least bit funny, but that's a matter of opinion.
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Posted 27 January 2008 - 03:53 AM

So a cultural difference is now grounds to claim someone didn't "think before they speak"? You tell me what's wrong with that concept. And if you expected it, here's a wild idea: point that out in advance, rather than having it wind up looking like you were looking for an opportunity to pounce on someone's lack of knowledge of an obscure, culturally unique definition.

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 08:55 PM

80s=the young ones
90s=friends
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Posted 29 January 2008 - 09:36 AM

Sorry, friends. I never got into that show. Keeping from watching it is what holds me from diving into the fountain of celebrated mediocrity.
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Young ones was funny, for an import.

The Simps tackled the 90s in a flashback episode the other night. Anyone see it? Pretty good ep.

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Posted 29 January 2008 - 03:11 PM

I wouldn't say that sarcasm was a main ingredient in Seinfeld at all. Sure, there was some sarcasm in it but it was more just outrageous situations and observational humor. It's very hard to judge a show like that because nearly 100% of the sitcoms released after it were trying to emulate it so the style seemed stale very, very quickly.

As for the Young Ones. I enjoyed that when I was in high school but I recently tried to watch it again and found it unbearable. I don't know. Personally I don't think it held up at all. This is coming from someone who liked it quite a bit in my early teens.
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Posted 29 January 2008 - 04:15 PM

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Pogoball blaster! now that is early 1990s and is different from now, as I've mentioned before.

Seinfeld had so many elements of humour, and did it all well. Observational, physical with kramer..... Sarcasim was not the main element I don't think.

Seinfeld also introduced the power of part time roles, more so than any other show I believe.

The crazy mechanic, newman, soup nazi, ugly baby parents, bubble boy, susan's loser family, elaines dad, pool boy, man hands, the close talker, mr pitt etc....

It really was a great show. One episode Jerry is training his prize cock fighter, the next George is responsible for bomb scares at yankee stadium, another time Kramer decides to play host to japanese tourists, Elaine is running around going nuts for her crazy boss.

Show went all over the place!
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Posted 29 January 2008 - 05:25 PM

Not to derail this into an entirely Seinfeld-related topic but that is a good point about Seinfeld's doing the part-time roles very well. I can't really think of any other show off the top of my head that did the occasional characters quite as well. Northern Exposure did it very well but they didn't have anywhere near the number that Seinfeld did.

Other roles: that lawyer guy (Jackie Chiles), J. Perelman, Mr. Pitt, Banion, Jerry's parents, PUTTY. It's really a very long list.
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Posted 29 January 2008 - 05:57 PM

I only mentioned the young ones because it's the only thing realated to that magnificent team that you guys would know.

filthy rich and catflap, the comic strip prestents, bottom (oh crap that was 90s.... cover up, cover up). But Blackadder was also an 80s thing... but to skip out of England for a moment... Sledgehammer, Married with children, Fraggle Rock, the was some cool shit going on.

Also...

80s = Empire strikes back
90s = Phantom menace

(I already know what the defence is going to be to this, but Return of the Jedi was still better than anything 'related' that came out afterwards, and i don't care what anyone says I don't remember any "ewok movies" what are you talking about).

but like i said before, the 80s produced alot of experimental and new things, where the 90s was bit more formula. Not just in films but music. Anything worthwile in the 90s was generally underground and without funding.

oohhh... James cameron

80s = the terminator, Aliens, the Abyss,
90s = True Lies, Titanic (and terminator 2 may have has awsome effects, but the original was better)


and Rutger Hauer

80s = Bladerunner, the Hitcher, Ladyhawk, Blind Fury
90s = I really don't remember... people were too busy tripping over themselves to put Leonardo DiCaprio in things...

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Posted 29 January 2008 - 06:49 PM

QUOTE (barend @ Jan 29 2008, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I only mentioned the young ones because it's the only thing realated to that magnificent team that you guys would know.


I resent that implication, barend. As a huge Bad News fan (something that I think holds up a bit better) I do happen to know other things about that team. wink.gif
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Posted 29 January 2008 - 07:12 PM

Barend, you're not going to convince me that the 80s, with its corporate action films (remember the obsession with ninjas?) was empirically better than the 90s. The 90s gave us GOODFELLAS, THE AGE OF INNOCENCE, QUIZ SHOW, BEING JOHN MALKOVICH, YOU CAN COUNT ON ME, BOTTLE ROCKET, RUSHMORE, RESERVOIR DOGS, PULP FICTION, CRUMB, and THE MATRIX. And this is off the top of my head. So yeah I liked the 80s too, but what are you trying to say? That somehow we owe a debt to James Cameron for inventing movies?
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Posted 29 January 2008 - 07:48 PM

Was the popularity of neon orange, bright green, and hot pink from the 80's or 90's? I can't help but throw up a little in my mouth if I see anyone wearing dated clothes with those colours.

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Posted 29 January 2008 - 09:01 PM

QUOTE (Chefelf @ Jan 29 2008, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I resent that implication, barend. As a huge Bad News fan (something that I think holds up a bit better) I do happen to know other things about that team. wink.gif


Good lord.

See... Bad News = 80s.

Do you have the Bad News Album?

QUOTE (civilian_number_two @ Jan 29 2008, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Barend, you're not going to convince me that the 80s, with its corporate action films (remember the obsession with ninjas?) was empirically better than the 90s. The 90s gave us GOODFELLAS, THE AGE OF INNOCENCE, QUIZ SHOW, BEING JOHN MALKOVICH, YOU CAN COUNT ON ME, BOTTLE ROCKET, RUSHMORE, RESERVOIR DOGS, PULP FICTION, CRUMB, and THE MATRIX. And this is off the top of my head. So yeah I liked the 80s too, but what are you trying to say? That somehow we owe a debt to James Cameron for inventing movies?


no.

just that the 80s brought out the best in Cameron, and the 90s the worst.

And there's nothing wrong with being obsessed with Ninjas.


Although, i must admit that the 80s wasn't the best decade for Doctor Who.

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