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My slimline has been pretty solid the past 2 years. My release day PS2, however, not so lucky. Nonethless, the slimline softmod was easy to install. Now I just need a copy of A.C.E.3 ;_;

I didn't let Final Fantasy slip by. You can get all of the good titles for a PC, NES, or SNES, and sometimes GBA/DS these days. FF8, 9, and 10 were agonizing, 11 is the most excruciating MMORPG ever created (the creators deliberately force you to grind and NEVER STOP. I'd rather shoot myself.), and 12 is unbalanced and has one of the worst character advancement ideas ever. First, you need to grind like crazy to get lots of "license points". Then you need to use them to get the license to use a set of equipment. (I never knew that putting on a hat was so difficult.) Then you need to spend a ridiculous amount of currency to actually buy whatever it was you just bought the license for. I haven't played enough of FF7 to get a feel for it, but many say it's the best of the series. And did I mention that their content has been 100% recycled since pretty much the second game in the series, and they've only essentially changed the geography and town names?

So yeah. No Final Fantasy titles worth getting for PS2. My pal Lefty did a good job of explaining my beef with so-called "RPGs" here: Orko-Playing Games. My apologies; I had to use a Google cache version of the page because his site crashed and he hasn't put it back up yet.

Edit: Killed the forum-TML.

This post has been edited by Slade: 10 October 2007 - 04:48 PM

Slade, you are one of the few people I know who aknowledges FF9 being a piece of shit.

Wanna cuddle?

My issue with any FF game after 7 is thus: You can actually believe that Cloud is a mighty warrior at the end of FF7. He looks strong and, well, like a fighter. However, 9, 10 and 12 all insist on you playing what is essentially the same charcter over and over again - that being a skinny, pseudo-effeminate teenage boy with blond hair who accidentaly finds himself in a Great Big Steampunk Pile O' Trouble©, along with his group of misfit orphan friends. 7 also had a fantastic supporting cast - Sephiroth is the best bad guy ever, and Barrett's character development is brilliant.

AND the battle/experience system is as complex as you want to make it. It's very similar to 'old school' RPGs, in that there aren't four trillion different commands to remember, and you're not fighting in fancy semi-real time, where the monsters can hit you, regardless of how far away you run. The storyline isn't as 'Emo' as the rest of the games, either.

But back to my original point. By the end of the game, Zane, Tidus, or whatever he may be called, is still the same skinny, malnourished little boy with a curvy stick for a weapon, but now he's capable of battering dragons to death. Makes no sense to me. Basically, what I'm trying to say is: At least Cloud looked 'Ard.

Excuse me?

This post has been edited by Professor Saucy: 11 October 2007 - 07:04 PM

Have you seen how big his sword is!?

This thread is making me wanna play FF7 again since I've only been through it once and never even finished it, but I tried torrenting it a few months ago and it wouldn't run on XP.


Did anyone else get the crap scared out of them by this game? Because when I was a wee lad of 9 most of the subject matter was disturbing as fuck.





Come to think of it, it still is.

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This post has been edited by Professor Saucy: 12 October 2007 - 06:05 AM

Lets be honest, FF7 is fucked right up.

I'd rather play FFT again than FF7 again. I enjoy the story more (it makes sense) and the fact that you aren't running around with 3 totally interchangeable characters at a time. But that's just me.

And agreed, FF9 was crap, but it was better than emo8.
"The Guardian Forces made us forget that WE GREW UP TOGETHER. Fancy that."
Back to the hellfire with you and you're junctioning system!

Agreed. Final Fantasy Tactics was probably the greatest FF game I have ever played (I don't have a PSP, though, so I'll never see those fancy FMVs they added. ). FF7 was okay, but it isn't THAT great. Certainly not great enough to have spin-off, after spin-off, after spin-off.

I didn't really like FF9 too much, but I did like FF8. Actually, I liked FF8 until the last disc or so, with all that time-compression crap I hated so much. That ruined the game for me. The love stories, high-schoolish characters and what not is what I liked. ...Probably a girly-girl thing.

FF10 was horrendous, as was X-2. I was hooked on XI for several years, but it just takes up too much time as you get up to levels 60+. I actually liked the idea that you HAD to party with people in order to advance ( I guess this was to emphasize the game's theme of 'teamwork'), but Slade's right -- it's all a grindfest from beginning to end. ...The story was pretty good, though.

And FF12? I really like that game. I ignore Vaan for the most part, but I like the licensing system... It reminds me of the Job Point system in Tactics. I mean, Tactics is kind of the same... You need points in order to learn how to throw a rock. But I digress. The battling system is wonderful!

This post has been edited by looktothesky: 12 October 2007 - 10:22 AM

I think that's what turned me off the most with the 7-10 games (didn't play 11 or 12 out of lack of interest) was the lack of the job system. I guess that's why I enjoyed FF5 so much when it came out stateside. The characters are generic but the paths were clearly detailed and it let you define your characters as to what they were and weren't good at doing. 7 and 8 just meant you swapped materia/junctions where teh only defining attribute were limits. 9 meant you just had to equip certain items to get skills on different characters. And 10 was as easy as using a teleport sphere. And there wasn't the change of growth as with the job system. Advancing your character with certain materia equipped didn't effect them like having a character leveling up as a Monk or Black Mage. But what is gone is gone. I'm half tempted to get a PSP for FFT though.

FF5 is the only one I've really played (well, FF5 and FF I guess). I have to agree with Reiner, the job system in that was brilliant. The only problem I found was that you needed a few more command lines so that I could use the myriad of abilities that I'd learnt.

refresh my memory, is FF5 on FF anthology?

I couldn't say, I only have a couple that came with my copy of ZSNES.

If I'm not mistaken, Anthology includes FF5 and 6.