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Posted 30 March 2006 - 11:39 AM

I think artoo should wear a cape. And Lando ought to fly. Boba wears a cape, and HE can fly. angry.gif

But it was a distraction kewl effect, wasn't it? What ELSE could occur that would remove us from the films show how incredible these characters are?

3po could do a supersonic pirhouette and helicoptor someone to safety? Chewbacca could speak BASIC and tell the drink-droid what he'd like? Luke could use the "think system" and sit in with the cantina band? Annie could prove himself as a whining courier?

Remember the hang-gliding Ewok? I give up. It's just more pwecious to be surprised by seeing something fly which shouldn't. smile.gif
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Posted 30 March 2006 - 01:13 PM

QUOTE (Jejef Thgaron @ Mar 29 2006, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not quite everybody, but close. Wookiees lack the vocalization qualities of humans, but they can understand Basic (English). For humans, it's vice versa, but not all humans understand Wookiee. Another thing to keep in mind: R2-D2 was created in the mid 1970's, as was his chirping, beeping voice. Remember how those old 14.4 modems sounded when they communicated with other computers? That's why the weird noises from Artoo.


R2D2 was made a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. And your knowledge of wookie vocal abilities boarders on creepy.
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Posted 30 March 2006 - 10:52 PM

QUOTE (Jejef Thgaron @ Mar 29 2006, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Another thing to keep in mind: R2-D2 was created in the mid 1970's, as was his chirping, beeping voice. Remember how those old 14.4 modems sounded when they communicated with other computers? That's why the weird noises from Artoo.


he speaks modem?

modems only have one phrase: ehehehehheezzzzzckckckckckckkckckckkkckoweeeeeee

which means 'connecting'

R2D2 said alot more.

also... that sentance really made no sense. huh.gif

R2 sounds beepy because he was made in the 70s? what are trying to say?
the film was set in another galaxy. he makes beepy noises because they thought that would be cool.
and it was...

QUOTE (jariten @ Mar 29 2006, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isn't he an astromech droid?


uh... and?
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Posted 30 March 2006 - 11:09 PM

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uh... and?


Just thought that rockets might be useful for flying up and down, making repairs, generally getting about the place. an R2 unit has pretty poor mobilty after all.
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Posted 31 March 2006 - 12:36 AM

then what about all the other astromech droids...

if something happened to R2 between films why did we not see any other similar models flying about... especially as R2 was AT LEAST 20 years older than other models that would be getting about.

i think, on multiple occasions, lucas forgot the new films were set BEFORE the old ones.
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Posted 31 March 2006 - 01:15 AM

What others?
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Posted 01 April 2006 - 09:41 PM

QUOTE (Sailor Abbey @ Mar 29 2006, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its not like they didn’t have super computers and microchips in a galaxy far far away.

Or a long, long time ago? In the 1970's (When the first SW movie was presented) robots were still thought of as obscure ends to justify the means. When robots were first introduced, they only served one purpose. Don't you think it's kinda odd your dishwasher doesn't put your dishes away for you? Your dishwasher is a robot. It serves only one purpose; wash the dishes. Why is a dishwasher a robot? Glad you asked. A robot is a machine built for the purpose of completing a task, or job. Look around your home. There are robots all around you. Your refridgerator is a robot; so is your stereo; so is your stove; your microwave. They all serve a purpose.

With this in mind... how are astromech droids so much crappier than protocol droids? Protocol droids are built for the purpose of understanding and speaking in different protocols, or in layman's terms, 'languages'. Astromech droids are built for piloting spacecrafts, repairing spacecrafts, patching into computers to communicate with the mainframes, hacking computer codes, operating ships' elevators/doorways/computers... I could keep going. What does a protocol droid do that is so much better than the tasks an astromech droid can accomplish? There are many things SW robots can do compared to our robots, even in this day and age. The only thing that comes close is our computer technology, and it's still not up to par. There's one thing SW droids have that make them far superior to anything we could create: They have minds of their own. They think for themselves, especially Artoo. He is the closest thing to artificial intelligence we have ever seen.
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Posted 01 April 2006 - 09:57 PM

They’re not robots. They are machines. Not the same thing.

So you can make a space ship fly across a galaxy in a matter of days but you cant figure out how to make a robot multitask? Yeah right.



QUOTE (Jejef Thgaron @ Apr 1 2006, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They think for themselves, especially Artoo. He is the closest thing to artificial intelligence we have ever seen.


I wanted to make a Deepsycher joke, but I decided against it.
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Posted 01 April 2006 - 10:19 PM

QUOTE (Sailor Abbey @ Apr 1 2006, 08:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They’re not robots. They are machines. Not the same thing.

So you can make a space ship fly across a galaxy in a matter of days but you cant figure out how to make a robot multitask? Yeah right.
I wanted to make a Deepsycher joke, but I decided against it.


Ah, my dear Abbey (no pun intended), it seems as if you've proved my friend Webster wrong again...

robot n. machine which works like a human being.

See, Webster seems to think robots are machines that work like we do. I think he's right. Do you really do all your dishes by hand? Do you keep your food cold by holding a block of ice on top of your food? Do you... nevermind. My point is: ROBOTS ARE MACHINES. They are machines that make life easier for us by doing a task, or job for us, so we can breathe easy knowing we didn't have to do something ourselves. We depend on these machines to do things for us... which is the definition of 'robot'.
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Posted 01 April 2006 - 10:27 PM

QUOTE (Jejef Thgaron @ Apr 1 2006, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ah, my dear Abbey (no pun intended), it seems as if you've proved my friend Webster wrong again...

robot n. machine which works like a human being.

See, Webster seems to think robots are machines that work like we do. I think he's right. Do you really do all your dishes by hand? Do you keep your food cold by holding a block of ice on top of your food? Do you... nevermind. My point is: ROBOTS ARE MACHINES. They are machines that make life easier for us by doing a task, or job for us, so we can breathe easy knowing we didn't have to do something ourselves. We depend on these machines to do things for us... which is the definition of 'robot'.



My dishwasher does not work like a human being, it works like a dishwasher. If my dishwasher spoke English, I might be inclined to agree with you.

Yes I do all of my dishes by hand. If I had a large chunk of ice, that’s exactly how I would keep my food cold. Do I... probably. My definition of robot is a machine with feet and hands that walks around and does stuff - not a stationary object void of opposable thumbs.

In closing: all Wiccans are witches, but not all witches are Wiccans. Furthermore: all robots are machines, but not all machines are robots. So you can stick your dictionary in the orifice of your choice.
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Posted 01 April 2006 - 10:40 PM

QUOTE (Sailor Abbey @ Apr 1 2006, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My dishwasher does not work like a human being, it works like a dishwasher. If my dishwasher spoke English, I might be inclined to agree with you.

Yes I do all of my dishes by hand. If I had a large chunk of ice, that’s exactly how I would keep my food cold. Do I... probably. My definition of robot is a machine with feet and hands that walks around and does stuff - not a stationary object void of opposable thumbs.

In closing: all Wiccans are witches, but not all witches are Wiccans. Furthermore: all robots are machines, but not all machines are robots. So you can stick your dictionary in the orifice of your choice.


When you wash dishes by hand, do you: A) Wash, Rinse, Dry? or cool.gif Let your cats lick them clean?

If you chose A) Wash, Rinse, Dry... that's exactly how a dishwasher works.

If you chose cool.gif Let your cats lick them clean... you have issues.

So, by saying a robot has to have feet and hands and walks around and does stuff... and it has to have opposable thumbs, how do you explain the robots that paint cars at the manufacturing plants? They are simple arms with a paint spray gun attached to the end. They are robots, though.

True, not all machines are robots... but you said it yourself... all robots are machines. You must have a greater understanding of the inner-workings of the English language than the people that write the dictionaries. Maybe you should write one yourself. I'll give you some advice though, since you implied that I should shove my dictionary up my ass... Don't quit your day job.
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Posted 01 April 2006 - 10:47 PM

Listen, my dildo does the same job as a penis - that doesn't make it a robot. It makes it a machine. If my dildo can pick up a socket wrench and fix and X-wing, then its a robot.

QUOTE (Jejef Thgaron @ Apr 1 2006, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll give you some advice though, since you implied that I should shove my dictionary up my ass... Don't quit your day job.


I said the orifice of your choice.
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 12:29 AM

So, would an artoo-dildo make one "soar"? tongue.gif
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 10:10 AM

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 10:26 AM

QUOTE (Sailor Abbey @ Apr 1 2006, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Listen, my dildo does the same job as a penis - that doesn't make it a robot. It makes it a machine. If my dildo can pick up a socket wrench and fix and X-wing, then its a robot.
I said the orifice of your choice.


Really? Can your dildo give you a pearl necklace? Can it take a piss? Can it blow it's load across the galaxy to create life in some old lady's womb? I don't think so. What purpose does your dildo serve? To get you off. That's it. I guarantee that dildo is in no way, shape, or form, the same as a real penis. It looks different; it feels different; in some cases, the dildo may vibrate... that may be one advantage it has over the real thing. It is not a penis. It is a dildo. They are given separate names for a reason. I'm not saying they don't come close, but they don't do the same job. Your dildo is constantly erect, a penis is not (and if it is, somebody needs to lay off the Viagra). A dildo is made for one purpose, and one purpose only. It is a sex toy. IT DOES A SIMULATION OF THE WORK A REAL PENIS DOES, ergo, by Webster's definition, it is a robot... unless it isn't powered off of AC or DC power. You are contradicting yourself by saying because it does the same job - that doesn't make it a robot. You really don't have a clue what you said, or you wouldn't be arguing this point wholeheartedly. You've flip-flopped your wording to make it sound like you originally said something you contradicted in the first place. Do you understand what talking in circles means? Did you watch the Matrix? Remember all those robot sentinel squid things that kept attacking the Nebuchadnezzar? They are 'robots'. They are 'machines'. Give me one good example of a machine that isn't a robot. Think about it for a while before you answer. I'll give you one for free, so you have a basis to work off of: The Cotton Gin created by Eli Whitney. And it's your turn...
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